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    Faema Legend

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    I started this topic in the UK and had a couple of positive answers but I dont think there were many users of this machine in the UK. Anyway, I sold my Duetto this weekend cause I have had my eyes on a Faema legend for some time* :). The Duetto was more than adequate for what I wanted it for. Its just a aesthetic thing. Agreed it costs a fortune but forget about that for the time being. Has anyone had any negative points (hopefully not* :() about owning such a machine?
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    Re: Faema Legend

    Which one are you asking about, semi auto or auto?

    I suspect that there arent too many people in Australia who have one. First reason is obvious, the price and the second is the availability.
    Then there is also the issue of plumbing etc which is not an issue in more popular machines like your old machine due to internal tank.

    I cant remember if it runs on a 10amp plug.

    If you are after some eye candy then youre onto a winner (though beauty is in the eye of the beholder). I personally think that the Duetto will produce better results in the cup due to the wider range of user controlled variables.

    Just my second crack

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    Re: Faema Legend

    They are actually pretty common and there are quite a few in Australia.

    2 group machines require 15A outa the box. As for one group, I dunno as I have yet to see one. ;)

    They do require caalibration of the thermosyphone restrictors but are otherwise excellent machines.


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    Re: Faema Legend

    Quote Originally Posted by 3C352B6E6F5F0 link=1337018038/1#1 date=1337044311
    Which one are you asking about, semi auto or auto?
    I thought the auto was called the Jubilee and the semi was called the Legend.
    Anyway I better read up on what thermosyphone restrictors do? Will I need to use a scace or can I just get away with sticking my finger under the group* ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by 392F223D26232F204E0 link=1337018038/3#3 date=1337097990
    I thought the auto was called the Jubilee and the semi was called the Legend.
    Anyway I better read up on what thermosyphone restrictors do? Will I need to use a scace or can I just get away with sticking my finger under the group*
    Correct you are walshman...

    Just use your finger. If two shots burn you similarly, youre in the zone. I call it a Chris II device. ;D

    Seriously though, you will need a method. Id think a bead probe over the puck would probably suffice.

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    Re: Faema Legend

    I ran my Duetto with a pressure reducing valve set at 2Bar, Would this be the case for the Legend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 16000D12090C000F610 link=1337018038/5#5 date=1337416684
    I ran my Duetto with a pressure reducing valve set at 2Bar, Would this be the case for the Legend?
    Thats very low. We recommend 350kPa

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    Quote Originally Posted by 247B63757E7579707073737B7778160 link=1337018038/6#6 date=1337417215
    Thats very low. We recommend 350kPa
    Thats 3.5 bar. Is this for the izzo if so it seems high or is it for the Faema ? Sorry for being naive* :-[

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    Re: Faema Legend

    Yes- correct for both

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    OK thanks cjn. So would the pressure gauge be reading the same 3.5 bar when the machine is not running?
    cheers* :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 726469766D68646B050 link=1337018038/9#9 date=1337502512
    OK thanks cjn. So would the pressure gauge be reading the same 3.5 bar when the machine is not running?
    cheers* :)
    Yeppers (or thereabouts) ;)

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    Re: Faema Legend

    The legend has arrived. Half way into installing it I looked at the flex coming out of the machine and it is a 3 phase flex. This could potentially end up a nightmare for me* :(. I have contacted the vendor(coffeeitalia) making them aware that they have shipped me a 415V machine and I thought I was getting a 240V machine. Trouble is who is to blame? the web site http://www.coffeeitalia.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=faema-a dont mention any voltages so naturally I thought they would send me a 240V one.Any suggestions?

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    Re: Faema Legend

    Oh Dear......

    a thought- if it turns out it only comes with a 3 phase power lead find out the total power rating. then if you get really lucky it may have dual elements in the main boiler. Just maybe disconnecting one of them will get you inside your power limit ( 10A in the UK- 2400 Watts? , or do you have a 15A 3600 Watt outlet ).

    If you can get to that point you can join the 3 phases together and run from a single phase outlet.

    Of course this will adversely affect your boiler warm up time and general performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2D3B362932373B345A0 link=1337018038/11#11 date=1338315997
    I have contacted the vendor(coffeeitalia) making them aware that they have shipped me a 415V machine and I thought I was getting a 240V machine.

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    Re: Faema Legend

    Id rather have a 3000watt machine than a 3 phase one working on half power. Its gotta go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4B5D504F54515D523C0 link=1337018038/13#13 date=1338325916
    Its gotta go.
    Or have the house rewired.

    Barry.

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    Chris Coffee says 3000W element in the 1 group, also says that its available in single-phase configuration.

    3000W is achievable in a domestic environment, sadly this is a bit out of reach of the standard rating for UK power sockets (13A/3120W (need to allow for overheads like pump and control)) so youd need a 15A circuit but even thatd be a bit of a squeeze (15Ax240V=3600W) and the 600W overhead might be tight depending on the pump in it.

    If you can find a friendly sparky to run you a 20A dedicated circuit for it at a reasonable price (assuming you can get your supplier to replace it with the single phase configuration) youre golden.

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    Re: Faema Legend

    Mate, youve purchased a new, commercial single group* espresso machine and they come the way they come, which is what you have.

    Also they are intended to be installed by appropriately qualified espresso machine service tech / installers not by the owner (insert analogy here: A taxi driver doesnt need to know anything mechanical or how to do a pre delivery or ongoing service and repairs to his vehicle, only how to drive it*to do his job) ;)

    So I am afraid none of this is surprising, and this post is intended as nothing more than for the information of anyone that buys new commercial equipment.

    If you call a professional equipment service agent, it will be connected / installed and running for you in a flash. Dont begrudge paying for specialised service that will get you up and running (and enjoying) in the shorted possible time.

    My only hope (and my own advice) is you dont take any notice of any "advice" or information of an electrical nature that has already been given here, to try and go it alone. Leave it to the experts please* ;).

    Hope that helps.

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    PS, another piece of advice: Have it connected, and start using it. If you are happy with the results / performance, file all information about so called "thermosyphon restrictors in the waste paper basket and enjoy your new toy without fear and insecurity. If you are not happy with results / performance after an appropriate settling in period (for you not the machine), you can then worry about specialised peripheral stuff.

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    Re: Faema Legend

    thereby negating why people often go onto these websites - to get ideas and take advice and ideas from people.


    Quote Originally Posted by 487C6B7D66514D6168686B6B0E0 link=1337018038/16#16 date=1338349922
    My only hope (and my own advice) is you dont take any notice of any "advice" or information of an electrical nature that has already been given here, to try and go it alone. Leave it to the experts please Wink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 655146504B7C604C45454646230 link=1337018038/16#16 date=1338349922
    Mate, youve purchased a new, commercial single group* espresso machine and they come the way they come, which is what you have.

    Also they are intended to be installed by appropriately qualified espresso machine service tech / installers not by the owner (insert analogy here: A taxi driver doesnt need to know anything mechanical or how to do a pre delivery or ongoing service and repairs to his vehicle, only how to drive it*to do his job)

    So I am afraid none of this is surprising, and this post is intended as nothing more than for the information of anyone that buys new commercial equipment.

    If you call a professional equipment service agent, it will be connected / installed and running for you in a flash. Dont begrudge paying for specialised service that will get you up and running (and enjoying) in the shorted possible time.

    My only hope (and my own advice) is you dont take any notice of any "advice" or information of an electrical nature that has already been given here, to try and go it alone. Leave it to the experts please* .

    Hope that helps.

    Attilio
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    PS, another piece of advice: Have it connected, and start using it. If you are happy with the results / performance, file all information about so called "thermosyphon restrictors in the waste paper basket and enjoy your new toy without fear and insecurity. If you are not happy with results / performance after an appropriate settling in period (for you not the machine), you can then worry about specialised peripheral stuff.
    Mate. If I wanted your negative advice I would of PMd you instead of you trying to be billy big potatoes on the web.
    I have the power in place, I was politely asking advice of what one would do. Had I known it came as a 3 phase machine I wouldnt of purchased it.

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    Wow. Play nice guys... :-?

    Taking the role of interpreter here, I think that Attilio is saying that a competent tech will have your kit up and running for you with the power you have walshman.

    The legend comes with inbuilt variable restrictors, so once you have power and water, a little work with a Scace device or bead probe over the puck (and your palate) will have you in the zone.

    These are a beautiful machine. Dont be disheartened by a small speed hump ;)

    Chris

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    Geez you were up early this morning Chris!

    Yes and Attilio was also explaining that this is what you get when you order a new commercial espresso machine. Someone has to arrange for a professional install.

    The post was intended to help give some measure of understanding and guidance, and I really don’t know where the “negative” thing came from. Realistic yes, negative...fraid not. Perhaps this is a term used nowadays to describe a situation where the OP doesnt get what they want....

    Have you thought to seek advice from your retailer?

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    Re: Faema Legend

    Well the machine is up and running. Has anyone insulated the boiler of one of these machines?



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