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    Sanremo Opera espresso machine

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    A new espresso machine to hit the market!

    “Eighteen months ago [Sanremo] contacted the head baristas of the world and invited them to come to Italy to see what they wanted in their ‘ideal’ coffee machine. We sat down with a blank canvas and Sanremo said: ‘Design your dream machine’,” he says. “The idea was to produce a machine with the best industry professionals from around the world, and to produce the best coffee machine in the market for those professionals.

    The Opera’s shell houses five individual insulated boilers, three for each group head plus a steam boiler and a pre-heater that circulates water over the top of each group. The groups themselves look a bit like a Dr. Who Dalek, if it were crossed with a retro Ferrari interior. Those group heads feature six fully customizable presets, activated via a set of three buttons. Setting adjustability includes the revolution of the gear pump, control over volume, and the option of two different flow rates.

    Opera is also fitted with a load cell, built directly into its drip tray, displaying of the weight of the beverage made from one of Opera’s groups. Like all the settings, the weight is displayed on an LCD screen built directly into the group head. All the relevant information for the barista is directly in front of him or her, and the machine’s ergonomics have been carefully considered as well. You can, for example, engage the steam want using a switch that toggles in 360 degrees, helping to ease the strain of repetitive movement. The lever itself is an up and down movement, which Mr. Gordon and his team felt made for less wrist strain than the side to side movement found commonly on paddle groups.
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    No doubt a very clever design with some highly complex engineering - but will all the features ever be used in the real world and will the TCO of the machine be financially viable?

    It's all very well to get in a group of top performers and ask them to design their ideal machine, but at the end of the day the most important design criteria is that it has to make money for its manufacturer, their resellers and the end user.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeS View Post
    No doubt a very clever design with some highly complex engineering - but will all the features ever be used in the real world and will the TCO of the machine be financially viable?

    It's all very well to get in a group of top performers and ask them to design their ideal machine, but at the end of the day the most important design criteria is that it has to make money for its manufacturer, their resellers and the end user.
    I'm with you on that one Mike.

    A whole heap of cafes invest in machine "xyz" because it's the chosen machine of the moment. They then use them at default to produce coffee which may in fact be worse than the bloke around the corner who understands coffee and uses his uncool machine to optimum.

    I wonder how many cafes with Slayers have pulled the requisite 100 (perhaps many more) experimental shots required to ascertain the optimum pressure profile for that particular bean on that particular day. More likely they flick the paddle and pull a shot.
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    Looks to me like they had a Kees 'Spirit' in the room at the same time as the umm .....'design team'..........;-D

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    Interesting to see san remo decides to expose braided hose (is this even a correct term? You know what i mean )

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    Now that it has been out for a little while, I wonder if anyone here has got some first hand experience with Sanremo Opera? How would you rate it compared to LM Linea and VA Black Eagle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzleg View Post
    Now that it has been out for a little while, I wonder if anyone here has got some first hand experience with Sanremo Opera? How would you rate it compared to LM Linea and VA Black Eagle?
    Meh. Have worked on a few and they have their issues like all other machines designed to have everything a barista lusts after. A few things have been redesigned because they break/wear out too easily. The levers aren't more ergonomic than paddles, and a barista could easily pull he wrong shot by accident when under the pump, since the activation levers pull a double shot when pulled in one direction and a single when moved the other way. The tap levers tend to need regular rebuilding because they are essentially a Vibiemme Lollo tap but redesigned with a much chunkier solid tap body which retains a lot more heat which 'cooks' the viton o-rings on the tap plunger prematurely so it sticks in its bore and means the tap lever does not spring back to its resting position, which sometimes leads to the tap staying open.
    The Black Eagle also has its issues for such a top end machine - simple stupid things like plastic trims surrounding the tap leavers that break their mounts after the screw holding them together are removed/refitted a few times, which has to be done to service the taps.

    I much prefer the Linea (the Classic, not the PB) as it is a much more reliable machine than the more complicated Opera, Black Eagle and PB, has been around long enough and is simple enough that most decent techs should be able to fix any issues relatively easily, and still has the La Marzocco badge on the back which to some people is more important than what's actually inside.

    And the Opera now has a nicer looking, cheaper competitor from its own stable - the Cafe Racer.
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