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Thread: Finally got an R58

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    Finally got an R58

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    After a long time comparing the Duetto and R58.

    In my mind the R58 beats the Duetto in looks, quality (internal) and Quality (external). The Duetto has wins for a bigger water tank and drip tray. The placement of the PID was a major issue for me. I don't like the look of the digital display on the front of the Duetto. However, I also wasn't keen on the cheap looking PID on the R58.

    I finally decided on the R58.

    I was lucky enough to get hold of a 3 week old machine at a good price through the "sales" forum.

    I picked it up yesterday and set it up.

    It is beautiful. The PID is fine. I have placed it next to my grinder so I can leave it there an out of the way but still keep an eye on the boiler temperature. One thing that amazes me is the boiler recovery time. After I pull a shot the boiler recovers to the set point within a minute or so. It doesn't overshoot. That's amazing to me as I never achieved that sort of recovery time with my own PIDed Silvia when I set that up a while back.

    I'm absolutely wrapped with choosing the R58 over the Duetto.

    This should do me for a few years - Maybe 10 !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauly404 View Post
    After a long time comparing the Duetto and R58.

    In my mind the R58 beats the Duetto in looks, quality (internal)
    Congrats on the new kit Pauly.

    Like your comments, but I think that the quoted one is a big, big call.

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    Thanks Chris.

    I'm a happy man today.

    Do mean the "sales" instead of "coffee hardware for sale" quote ?? ......or something else?

    Cheers
    Paul

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    Congrats on the purchase pauly! To many years of happy shots!

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    Thanks dans1982.

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    Had a great time pulling shots today from 91 to 97 deg C. Amazing to have that control and see the change you get with every 1deg C change. For the beans I'm using the Goldilocks zone is clearly 94-95 deg C.

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    Chris, I know that you helped Rocket out with getting their PID settings correct. Amazing job so thanks !!

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    Correction on my first post in this thread - after pulling a shot the recovery time is O
    "ZERO" Nought, nada.

    I have the PID at 107 deg C. It stay 107 during the shot and stay 107 after the shot. AMAZING.

    If I draw out 50 ml quickly the recovery time is about 30 seconds only. Again, AMAZING...

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    ImageUploadedByTapatalk1411364159.173991.jpgImageUploadedByTapatalk1411364173.772252.jpg.

    This is my solution for the "ugly" R58 PID. Use Velcro to fasten it to the bench next to the grinder. You'll hardy notice it there but an see it and use it when you need to.

    Looks great!

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    Also sits very neatly directly under the drip tray...

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    I thought about that and it was the first thing I tried. I decided to put it where it is to keep it right away from water and steam.

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    Let me get this straight; you think the R58 with a PID hanging out the side looks better than the integrated PID in the duetto?

    I couldnt live with that would remind me of a modded sylvia.

    Each to their own i guess.


    In my mind the R58 beats the Duetto in looks, quality (internal) and Quality (external).
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    You need to see my pic. The PID is completely out of the way sitting next to my grinder. You don't even notice it there unless you look for it. This keeps the machine looking absolutely beautiful. ImageUploadedByTapatalk1412411472.422485.jpg

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    ImageUploadedByTapatalk1412411522.488573.jpg. Here's the side. PID and wiring are completely out of site.

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    I just love the way the machine retains it's old fashioned character with the PID embedded

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    Here's a video of my R58 in action - http://youtu.be/YpCDRx-dgQE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauly404 View Post
    You need to see my pic. The PID is completely out of the way sitting next to my grinder. You don't even notice it there unless you look for it. This keeps the machine looking absolutely beautiful. ImageUploadedByTapatalk1412411472.422485.jpg
    i saw it. once you get it setup why dont you put it inside the machine?

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    It's a matter of taste. I prefer the old fashioned look of the PIDless machine. Others prefer the digital display on the front of the machine. No right or wrong ...

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    Hey Pauly

    like you i was a little concerned about the look of the external PID, but to be honest, but now that i have it on the bench it doesnt bother me at all.
    However when i was at Talk coffee, and looking at it next to the duetto 3, i come close to grabbing the duetto, but i went with my heart
    I havent decided if i will leave the PID next to the grinder like you or under the drip tray.
    Under the drip tray, i feel it may continually get wet.

    I havent experimented with temps as yet, but definately plan to do so so the PID will stay plugged in

    Congrats on the purchase mate, and am sure it will last you 10 years and more if looked after.

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    2 happy snobs I thinks
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