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    La Marzocco Strada EP 1 group

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    Apparently there will be a single group version of the La Marzocco Strada EP. It has a water reservoir with a plum-in option, and it would be interesting whether they use a gear pump as per the multiple groups.

    Link: https://www.home-barista.com/espress...ng-t36826.html

    Perhaps it's La Marzocco's "version" of the Slayer single group. I would assume that they would showcase this machine at HOST in Milan.
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    That's very cool.

    I wonder whats the RRP going to be........
    Assuming Slayer territory which is just that bit too much to justify for home use.

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    I cant wait to see this in production. I too wonder what the RRP. Either way I guess Ill be saving my pennies for a new upgrade!

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    I know a man with the smarts to make a pressure profiling GS/3...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talk_Coffee View Post
    I know a man with the smarts to make a pressure profiling GS/3...
    Very different...that's a Strada MP-esq mod where this is more like a Vesuvius (gear pump controlled)

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebookfreak58 View Post
    Very different...that's a Strada MP-esq mod where this is more like a Vesuvius (gear pump controlled)
    No not quite. It's not very hard to get your hands on a geared pump, wire in a control knob to adjust the pressure manually. All you need to do is take the rotary pump out and mount the new pump in or easier have it external to the machine under the bench. The only difference is the pressure is manually adjusted where this and the Vesuvius are profiled so it follows a pre set range

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    Quote Originally Posted by brendogs View Post
    No not quite. It's not very hard to get your hands on a geared pump, wire in a control knob to adjust the pressure manually. All you need to do is take the rotary pump out and mount the new pump in or easier have it external to the machine under the bench. The only difference is the pressure is manually adjusted where this and the Vesuvius are profiled so it follows a pre set range
    Yep that's also correct/true. That's more generic (ie. can be done to any machine) rather than anything GS/3 specific (changing MP parts to Strada MP parts to control pressure manually)

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebookfreak58 View Post
    Yep that's also correct/true. That's more generic (ie. can be done to any machine) rather than anything GS/3 specific (changing MP parts to Strada MP parts to control pressure manually)
    Erm- yes and no...An MP does not allow for pressure profiling... Much more in the way of smarts are required to make a GS3 EP....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talk_Coffee View Post
    Erm- yes and no...An MP does not allow for pressure profiling... Much more in the way of smarts are required to make a GS3 EP....
    Then I'm very keen to hear more!

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    Anyway, don't expect this to be priced for the home or domestic market. I would imagine their target market will be for commercial purposes so expect it to be closer to $10k+ range.

    It would be awesome to see, to be honest I don't know why they wouldn't release every model in the range with a single group option like they have with the Linea. When you're an international leader in the coffee industry there shouldn't be any worry for tooling up to manufacture every possible option for their dedicated legions of die hard fans.

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    Well, the brand is not an "international leader" and overall numbers compared to others making good name conventional type machines, are small.

    It is very much a localised marketing phenomenon depending where anyone is...

    So it doesn't pay them to produce some models in numbers, where they may well be unlikely to sell....afraid there really aren't "dedicated legions of die hard fans" to sell to, just a small number of people who are vocal in internet circles, many of whom are happy to talk up the brand and its models despite that they will never actually spend the money to buy.
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    Yeah true but the way I see it is a single group version is going to use all the same parts as its 2 or 3 group counterparts.

    Same group heads, same computers, same pumps etc etc. The only difference being the boilers lengths which would just be cut down and have the end plates welded on the smaller variations.

    I know I'm being very vague with this but you get my drift. I just think they should have tooled up from the start to release a 1, 2 and 3 group version from release date that's all.

    I don't really care TBH I love my GS3 too much to even look at other options if I ever get bored with it I will do the geared pump mod to it. I've seen you can script an Arduino control board to save a pressure profile which might be a fun little project.

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    A few pics from attendees of Milan HOST. It looks fairly large so it may have reasonable size boilers.

    https://instagram.com/p/9L23pejQm_/

    https://instagram.com/p/9LpmQKGu-f/


    I like it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tucrazy View Post
    It looks fairly large ...
    Yeah if that's a GS3 in the background of the first pic it certainly does look large.

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    Yes, I think it is a GS3 next to it.

    Edit: Confirmed - see link

    https://instagram.com/p/9NtrmcGeZE/
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    Say goodbye to $20k?

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    $12-$15k more likey????
    (maybe price matched with a Slayer single group?)

    Single group strada is a cool toy in the right situation.
    Certainly looks big against a GS3 in those pics.

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    Dunno Andy. A 2 group is about $23k. I can't see a 1 group being 50%. Maybe more like 75%-80%? Who knows...

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    Curious if this will be released in australia and for what price? Hmmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by smb View Post
    Curious if this will be released in australia and for what price? Hmmmm
    No doubt it will in time find its way here. I'm still predicting easy $15k or more given the price of the 2 group...

    I'd doubt that it will compete with the Slayer on price. LM take way too much in brand premium to allow for that. There are table tennis tables, air hockey thingys, grooming mirrors and other requisite toys to purchase to make their sites look "cool".

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    I just picture an old school box tv and an Atari playing Galaga when I saw the strada 1 group. Just has that look about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talk_Coffee View Post
    No doubt it will in time find its way here. I'm still predicting easy $15k or more given the price of the 2 group...

    I'd doubt that it will compete with the Slayer on price. LM take way too much in brand premium to allow for that. There are table tennis tables, air hockey thingys, grooming mirrors and other requisite toys to purchase to make their sites look "cool".
    Unfortunately i think you are correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by smb View Post
    Unfortunately i think you are correct
    Only unfortunate if you think it ever made any sense for home use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlMac View Post
    Only unfortunate if you think it ever made any sense for home use.
    Not sure what that has to do with it. If I had the cash surplus I would buy it even though a nespresso does the same thing for much less money
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    Quote Originally Posted by trentski View Post
    I would buy it even though a nespresso does the same thing for much less money
    Wow... is all I can say...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwantfm View Post
    Wow... is all I can say...
    I know right. Who would try and rationalise an expensive espresso machine in coffeesnobs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlMac View Post
    Only unfortunate if you think it ever made any sense for home use.
    If they do actually release this machine in australia competing directly with the slayer on price, why would it not be considered for home use?

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    It's going to require a fair bit of bench space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smb View Post
    If they do actually release this machine in australia competing directly with the slayer on price, why would it not be considered for home use?
    The LM Strada was built to enable pressure profiling.
    I'm referring to whether you think that there is a need to have a machine with pressure profiling for home use. A high price on the LM Strada is only unfortunate if you want to do pressure profiling at home.
    If you didn't want to do pressure profiling then you have plenty of other good options, so the price of the LM doesn't matter.

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    What does need have to do with it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by trentski View Post
    What does need have to do with it?
    All I can hear now is "What's love got to do with it"... gotta love Tina Turner!

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    Quote Originally Posted by trentski View Post
    What does need have to do with it?
    WTF was I thinking!
    Normal service resumed.
    I'm making arrangements to buy one right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talk_Coffee View Post
    No doubt it will in time find its way here. I'm still predicting easy $15k or more given the price of the 2 group...

    I'd doubt that it will compete with the Slayer on price. LM take way too much in brand premium to allow for that. There are table tennis tables, air hockey thingys, grooming mirrors and other requisite toys to purchase to make their sites look "cool".
    pretty good guess on price

    http://au.lamarzocco.com/wp-content/...-pricelist.pdf
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    And that's ex gst...

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    Quote Originally Posted by smb View Post
    No worse than a 1 group Hydra MVP or a Speedster to be fair. 13 vs 15 is close enough it probably only helps in a tossup.



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