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    Valexia

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    Hi all,

    This variation on a theme is available to us with stainless boilers/solenoids if we wanted it...

    I'd like to know your thoughts...

    It's a hidden page on our website which I'll leave active for a week or so....

    Cheers

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    Looks great.

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    Looks nice. Is that the super Alex?

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by artman View Post
    Looks nice. Is that the super Alex?

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    Nope- In a way it's a hybrid...The machines we already know with new panels...the "Val" bit being derived from Valchiria..

    The super Alex- you're getting nothing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talk_Coffee View Post
    Nope- In a way it's a hybrid...The machines we already know with new panels...the "Val" bit being derived from Valchiria..

    The super Alex- you're getting nothing!
    Love it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lxlQITXBAQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talk_Coffee View Post
    is available to us with stainless boilers/solenoids if we wanted it...
    If I was in the market for something like this Chris, I'd be opting for Copper/Brass Boiler(s) and fittings...
    I know it's a requirement in Europe but for me, there are just too many issues with S/S...

    Nice looking machine though and moving away from the common s/s cube design...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimal View Post
    If I was in the market for something like this Chris, I'd be opting for Copper/Brass Boiler(s)...
    Hear you Mal..

    Sadly these days, the public are speaking because they read stuff (often via scaremongering web pages) and extrapolate...

    What they don't realise is that in areas of sub-optimal water, they will probably have to factor boiler replacement into long term running costs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimal View Post
    If I was in the market for something like this Chris, I'd be opting for Copper/Brass Boiler(s) and fittings...
    I know it's a requirement in Europe but for me, there are just too many issues with S/S...



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    As would I, not from personal experience, however from my limited research into the subject seems to me copper is the way to go.

    Boiler replacement is a costly repair.

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    Looks nice - it doesn't take much to de-box.

    Having a copper HX I don't get the chance to taste any copper - but for a DB and especially a large boiler dipper in the home, is tainting something commonly noticed?

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    Alrighty,

    That provided sufficient feedback to get me going...

    Stocks of the Izzo Valexia Duetto are currently in production with an ETA of September.
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    Here's the spec for the new Izzo Valexia dual boiler PID which we expect will compete with the Rocket R58 on price.

    Initial stocks are limited and CS'ers will receive priority. Contact me for further information.

    Vital Statistics
    Boiler Capacity 1.5L steam, 0.8L brew. Both boilers stainless steel and insulated.
    Fresh Water Tank 3.0L tank or from mains- switchable
    Voltage 220-240V 50Hz
    Power consumption 2 x 1000W
    Dimensions (W x D x H) approx 390 x 450 x 440 mm
    Pump Rotary
    Weight Approx 32kg

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    That is one hot machine. Love the width of it. I can't tell on my phone, Chris, but if due Sept are those images on your page renders or actual metal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by readeral View Post
    That is one hot machine. Love the width of it. I can't tell on my phone, Chris, but if due Sept are those images on your page renders or actual metal?
    Pretty sure that they are actuals Rederal as I obtained them from the hi-res section of their website available to importers/resellers. They have seen photoshop though as evidenced by the lack of annoying reflections.

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    Izzo Valexia Duetto stock has arrived and they look brilliant in the metal...Photos don't go close to doing it justice.

    All stainless boilers and solenoids and the quietest rotary pump I have ever heard. New Gicar white display PID.

    This is how you can move away from the usual square box...

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    Look like a lovely machine. Good opponent for the R58 Chris?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesigningByCoffee View Post
    Look like a lovely machine. Good opponent for the R58 Chris?
    Yes definitely. It will take it right up to the R58, but out specs it on stainless chassis, boilers and solenoids...

    As for a whole heap of other wannabes....
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    Chris

    so i was looking to compare the alex izzo to the new velexia and it seems it is no longer on your site.

    Is Alex Izzo discontinued?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brettreaby View Post
    Chris

    so i was looking to compare the alex izzo to the new velexia and it seems it is no longer on your site.

    Is Alex Izzo discontinued?
    Same machine with new clothes Brett. This spec adds stainless boilers and solenoid (plus the promise of some in the near future pimping...)

    We feel the Valexia has more contemporary looks so it will becomes our current offer.

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    In the next round of pimping, we have proof of concept that a shot timer is doable on the Valexia...

    Stay tuned!

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    Shot timer to Valexia Duetto. Who said it couldn't be done?
    https://www.facebook.com/TalkCoffee/...3663905726294/

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    Nice! The LED colour looks like a nice white too. Would this PID unit be retro fittable to something like the Duetto?

    Cheers

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    G'day artman... Yes, it's doable as the architecture is the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talk_Coffee View Post
    Shot timer to Valexia Duetto. Who said it couldn't be done?
    https://www.facebook.com/TalkCoffee/...3663905726294/
    nice indeed, will it be a standard feature Chris or an option to add the shot timer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnA View Post
    nice indeed, will it be a standard feature Chris or an option to add the shot timer?
    Hi John,

    At this point it's an option/retrofit.

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    I bought a Valexia from Chris a couple of weeks ago. This is my 'first' machine (technically second, mum and dad had a $400 thermoblock). The Valexia has being an awesome machine so far. No issues. There are many positives:
    -It's ridiculously quiet
    -Fast warm-up time (less than 10mins till stable temp!)
    -The way this machine delivers the 9bar pressure is fantastic
    -Dry steam
    -Easy to use PID
    -Did I mention how beautiful it looks!

    Like the 80/20 rule, it satisfies pretty much all my needs. If I wanted that extra 20% (pressure profiling, saturated brew group), I'd have to pay up for a Vesuvius/GS3/modded Linea mini. I'm happy with what I got.

    Here's a pic of my setup. Thanks to Lukemc for the Kony too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talk_Coffee View Post
    G'day artman... Yes, it's doable as the architecture is the same.
    What's involved Chris, besides a new PID? I'd love to retrofit this to my Alex DII. I've become obsessed with weighing and timing shots and using the little kitchen timer thingy I have is a PITA.

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    Beautiful setup Tom...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimal View Post
    Beautiful setup Tom...

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    Thanks Mal!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgz View Post
    What's involved Chris, besides a new PID? I'd love to retrofit this to my Alex DII. I've become obsessed with weighing and timing shots and using the little kitchen timer thingy I have is a PITA.
    New PID, relay, the nouse to wire it all up and the ability to tune the PID correctly for the machine. We defer to the big brain of Rick for our shot timer retrofits.

    Quote Originally Posted by Weasel84 View Post
    Damn right, Mal. What a beauty!

    Perhaps I'm the only nutjob here who felt strangely disappointed reading Tom's comments regarding the Valexia being "ridiculously quiet". The idea of that big boy being as quiet as a little mouse is unnerving.

    I've always found the grunt and hiss of a coffee machine reassuringly timeless, and immensely comforting. Obviously nobody wants the sound of a cement pump jackhammering into their lughole first thing in the morning, but I don't want a squeak either - come on, gimme a bitta' music!

    (I'll gather you've all figured out by now that I live alone, and am not married).
    I'm not sure that I agree with you on that one Weasel.

    One aspect of my role which often causes frustration is when a machine goes up on our test bench before it ships to a client and it sounds like a tractor; especially in rotary pump machines which should be pretty quiet. We do our utmost to attend to that and in rare instances can even fail and return "Friday afternoon" builds which will not be quietened. A true bench test is why it's best not to purchase from a box seller. If there is to be heartbreak, I want it to occur at our place, not in your home.

    One of the lovely rewards of my job is the sound of caffeinated nectar as it hits the cup- particularly when there is no other sound as with leva machines like the Cremina and our other spring leva gear- and when a rotary pump is noisier than some vibe pumps can be, it irritates me. As an owner, I'd rightly wonder what I'd paid for.

    Izzo are absolutely at the top of the game when it comes to producing quiet rotary pump driven gear and I am yet to hear another brand of prosumer gear (and that includes all of the biggies so frequently discussed here) which is close to being in the same ballpark. Like a smooth running car, you see, hear and feel quality and care in production and that's without even peering inside to admire build quality. All that's left is to nail taste- and that's the role of the operator.

    I have little doubt that you will make sufficient racket in producing said coffee to appease yourself!

    Chris



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