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    La Pavoni,..  just like Sparky!

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    Hey Guys.... Post number 1 from me!

    I have been enjoying rather acceptable (read better than most cafes) espresso from my humble little Napolitana Combi for a few years now. Was seriously considering the upgrade to La Scala Eroica in a couple months,... then - THIS! I just bought a La Pavoni Bar 2S (or possibly 2T - Im guessing at the model!) very similar to Sparkys new one off flea-bay! Paid $1500, including the La Pavoni Zip grinder!!! I thought... can I go wrong?!?!?!

    SO,.. what exactly have I got myself in for?!?!?
    I know I have to plumb it in,.. probably have to put in a new power point for the bugger too... I plan to give it a clean up when I get it, not sure how long it has been in storage for.... but it looks clean, and certainly will keep my caffine addiction at bay!

    Any tips, tricks etc?!?!?

    Sparky - did most of coffeeparts Pavoni bits fit your beasty?

    Looking forward to the response!

    Cheers!
    Mark



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    Re: La Pavoni,.. *just like Sparky!

    You need to have good friends who are prepared to help you clean it up.

    I wonder where youll find those...... ;)

    Almost sorry I pointed you to that link now. If only Id had the room in my kitchen to house it........ only joking mate. Its just the jealousy talking now :P

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    Re: La Pavoni,.. *just like Sparky!

    hahahahaha.... you know youll enjoy the coffe just as much Caff....

    Besides, its going to take a while to match your shot skill from the Silvi!

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    Re: La Pavoni,.. *just like Sparky!

    What a pretty machine- look at those group heads- serious looking grinder there!
    Brett

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    Re: La Pavoni,..  just like Sparky!

    Hi Zedd,

    Great looking machine for sure. With a little luck you might only need new group seals and a few other low cost. easily replaceable bits.

    Yep plumb her in ..... and you will need a special power run (or reduce the number of elements in the heater).

    Id probably do a descale unless it has been used on a regularly serviced water softener....

    And then sit back and enjoy great espressos.... lots of them!!

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    Yup, It isnt as much effort to get it hooked up as it may seem, but if its had a hard run a descale may be in order... but just hook her up, and try it out first... who knows, it may be good to go as is!

    Cheer, Mark

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    Re: La Pavoni,.. *just like Sparky!

    Welcome to the Extreme end of town, Zedd.

    A diabolical purchase! Seriously, she looks good, and hope the innards are ditto.

    Already jealous of the steam wand on both sides. I used to think that was such a redunant feature... but now that I have to lean across my machine to reach it in its new position, I can see they make sense. But I digress.


    Hope La Pavoni starts earning its keep with a minimum of effort.

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    Re: La Pavoni,.. *just like Sparky!


    Hi Mark. Nice find. Im pretty happy with my machine, but am still tweaking it. The coffee parts pieces work for the most paort. I ended up replacing the upper and lower valves, not just the rubber seats, and found that the threads on the valve rods were different, so I had to get the entire part. I got the cheapest option, which didnt fit my machine, but used a lathe to cut it back to the correct size. I was on the phone a bit with Pedro to sort out what was what, but they had all the parts I needed.

    I had to add a one way valve to the input of the pump to prevent back flow into the pump, which may have killed one of my pumps.

    Im a bit busy now, so Ill get back to you.

    Cheers,

    Mark.

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    Re: La Pavoni,.. *just like Sparky!

    Hey,.. * just wanted to thank everyone who replied!

    I pick her up tonight, but then Im actually going away for august with work,..which is unfortunate. *I wont get stuck into her until I get back.
    Im excited to even wipe down her gleaming chrome though! *let alone the prospect of espresso flowing from her portafilters!!

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    Re: La Pavoni,..  just like Sparky!

    Im sure someone here would be happy to look after her for you Zedd while youre out of town ;)

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    Re: La Pavoni,.. *just like Sparky!

    Well... I picked up the new girl(s) last night. :)

    Man, that grinder is a MONSTER,.. total overkill for home,.. but I LOVE IT! It is SOOOO quiet compared to the Lux built into the Mokita Combi,... cannot wait until its my only grinder. The doser floors wipes SO clean,.. impressive. I wasnt able to work the grind adjustment in the 5 minutes I was fideling last night,.. it might be gunked up.

    The Pav is rather clean, inside and out. (Ill endeavour to get some pics of her tonight, and try to post them tomorrow! I know how all you tech heads love the pics!!! :))
    I have decided that in the process of bringing her online, I am going to change the steam wands as well as her group head seals, and perhaps the orings and seals in the valving of the E61 group heads. Shower screens are spotless! I have one slight concern... they didnt drain the boiler!!!! :-/ Both steaam valves, and the water tap were left open, but the boiler still has standing water..... so shes going to need a real good flush!! Im going to drain off some water tonight into a glass and inspect it for look and smell. Alge is my concern.

    I am suprised at the lack of buildup inside her though,.. and even the drain tray and the little black box are perfectly clean.

    Shes stamped as a Bar 2T,.. and the year of manufacture is 2000!!!!!
    Pretty darn excited... shes SOOOO gorgeous!!!!

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    Re: La Pavoni,..  just like Sparky!

    Quote Originally Posted by Zedd link=1184556429/0#10 date=1185226175

    I have one slight concern... they didnt drain the boiler!!!! :-/ Both steaam valves, and the water tap were left open, but the boiler still has standing water..... so shes going to need a real good flush!! Im going to drain off some water tonight into a glass and inspect it for look and smell. Alge is my concern.
    That is a GOOD sign....

    If they drain the boiler, and scale etc dries out and can come loose..... so a boiler with water in it keeps that all in place....... even a little scale in a dried out boiler can cause a problem necessitating a descale.

    Sounds like you have a real great buy..... and so recently manufactured as well....

    Congratulations!!! :) :)

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    WHOA!!!! Cool!!!!! :D
    That is some damn good news JavaB!! Thanks!

    The people who sold it to me really had no clue! They owned a bookshop cafe, and had no idea baout the coffee making side of the business at all. The employed a barista who looked after that entire side of the business, and he obviously cared about the equipment, and had pride in his work. He had them paying for a service technition to come in and service the machine MONTHLY! Now,.. I may be wrong, but I would think that monthly service would only require a good flush/clean (stripping group heads etc),.. I wouldve thought that that would be something that could easily be done by the barista himself? Am I totally wrong for a commerical setting?

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    Re: La Pavoni,..  just like Sparky!

    Zedd,

    Most cafe owners wouldnt have a clue on how to do even the most basic of services..... neither would most baristas.... so they call in the professionals... (and it is a tax deduction for them as well ;))

    Yes, they could do it themselves (as we do)..... but in any event - its good news for you!!! :)

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    Dont see that algae could be a problem -- the boiler is sealed from light.

    A mere flush may well see your bright new toy ready for business.

    Fingers crossed,

    Robusto

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    Very good point robusto!

    My fears have subsided!

    When I return, Ill arrange power and plumbing... * then Ill change the steam wands (theyre a little marked in the chrome, and really not expensive!), and the group seals. *Ill give everything a clean... especially the group heads etc...*then fire her up. *Ill do a back flush, and a couple full boiler flushes... * *then brew a shot... *or ten!!

    SOOOOO looking forward to it!

    Ill still take some happy snaps to post tonight!

    M. *

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    Pictures of my Pav!

    OK,.. *I promised pics... here some are!

    (I hope these work out!)

    The machine,.....
    [img]<img src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a273/zeddrums/Coffee/LaPavoniCoffeeMachine004.jpg">[/img]

    The Showerscreens - SPOTLESS!
    [img]<img src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a273/zeddrums/Coffee/LaPavoniCoffeeMachine007.jpg">[/img]

    The huge boiler and inards:
    [img]<img src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a273/zeddrums/Coffee/LaPavoniCoffeeMachine008.jpg">[/img]

    Procon pump and plumbing...
    [img]<img src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a273/zeddrums/Coffee/LaPavoniCoffeeMachine009.jpg">[/img]

    The Zip Grinder....
    [img]<img src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a273/zeddrums/Coffee/LaPavoniCoffeeMachine015.jpg">[/img]

    Like I said,.. hope they work out!

    Mark.

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    Re: La Pavoni,.. *just like Sparky!

    hmmm... * sorry theyre a little large, arent they! :-/

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    Re: La Pavoni,.. *just like Sparky!

    you lucky so-and so!!!
    you are going to have soooo much fun.... ::) ;)

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    Re: La Pavoni,..  just like Sparky!

    Sorry Zedd, but no pics came through.


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    Re: La Pavoni,.. *just like Sparky!

    :-???? the pics are there, Java...

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    Re: La Pavoni,..  just like Sparky!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lizzi link=1184556429/15#20 date=1185347400
    :-???? the pics are there, Java...
    Hhhhmmm....Not for me.

    OK,.. I promised pics... here some are!

    (I hope these work out!)

    The machine,.....
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    The Showerscreens - SPOTLESS!
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    The huge boiler and inards:
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    Procon pump and plumbing...
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    The Zip Grinder....
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    Like I said,.. hope they work out!

    Mark.
    Thats all I see. :(


    Java "Still peeking" phile

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    Re: La Pavoni,.. *just like Sparky!

    hmmm... pics are there for me too!!!

    See if you can see this:


    mod edit use [img] url here [/img] to load your pix instantly ;)

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    Re: La Pavoni,..  just like Sparky!

    Quote Originally Posted by Javaphile link=1184556429/15#21 date=1185348344

    Thats all I see. :(


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    Me too Java....

    Must be a Java thing ;D ;D

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    Re: La Pavoni,.. *just like Sparky!

    I can see the pics and they are very nice mate. I like the extra long steam wands!

    Cheers

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    Re: La Pavoni,..  just like Sparky!

    OK, to avoid messing up the original post Im going to make some mods to the links in the original post and repost it here.

    ------------------------Original post with mods made to the links------------------

    OK,.. I promised pics... here some are!

    (I hope these work out!)

    The machine,.....


    The Showerscreens - SPOTLESS!


    The huge boiler and inards:


    Procon pump and plumbing...


    The Zip Grinder....


    Like I said,.. hope they work out!

    Mark.

    ------------------------------------End of original post-------------------------

    Lets see how this works. :)


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    Re: La Pavoni,.. *just like Sparky!

    Mate I just re-read your first post on this thread....seems like great value ...well done.

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    Re: La Pavoni,.. *just like Sparky!

    has that fixed it for you java-bes a computer wizard-phile?!!!?!?

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    Re: La Pavoni,..  just like Sparky!

    Thanks Java....

    That is one really nice looking machine there Zedd...

    Not much work required on that one....

    And so many "Oh so good" espressos to look forward to.

    Congrats :) :)

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    Re: La Pavoni,.. *just like Sparky!

    Thanks for the words Lizzi and Ozscott too!! ;)

    I just cant wait to fire her up... but it wont be for over a month, as Im going away! :(

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    Re: La Pavoni,.. *just like Sparky!

    Thanks JavaB

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    EEK!! Those are some huge pics. Might I suggest you resize them so you can see the entire pic with-out having to scroll back and forth.

    When using the img tag put only the addy of the pic between the tags and nothing else, i.e.: (img)http://picture_addy_here(/img)

    FYI The square brackets have been replaced with parenthesis so its visible. Use the square brackets in actual usage. :)



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    Re: La Pavoni,..  just like Sparky!

    Zedd....

    Your new tamper will get lost in the midst of all that bling.....

    But it will help you make great espressos (even if it doesnt get noticed ;))!

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    Re: La Pavoni,.. *just like Sparky!

    Hehehehe... not wrong JavaB,.. but the tamper will always have pride of place!

    Javaphile,.. Thanks for the tip! ;)
    Whats a simple way of resizing the pics?? :-? I mean, I know I could open the photos on my machine, shrink them in photoeditor, upload them to photobucket again, and repost again,.. but is there a simpler way? That wont remove the ones that are already there will it? Maybe Photobucket have a way I can resize directly... hmmmm... Ill go look. :)

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    Re: La Pavoni,.. *just like Sparky!

    OK!!! I got them resized... sorry about the stuff around!!!!
    Posting pics in web forums is all new to me!!!! ::)

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    Hey There Guys,
    Ive just picked up a LaPavoni Bar T S2 for restoration.
    And, Ive been trolling through old posts looking for people doing the same with these machines and came accross your discussion, sorry I know it was from 2007!!
    I've found I need a new Boiler as one of the heat exchangers has split.

    Do you guy's know where I might find a serviceable used one, or even a dead machine with a serviceable boiler?

    Cheers



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