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    A Good Place to Begin

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    Hi coffeseurs,

    Been a huge a fan of coffee for a long time, but since leaving home and the *convenience of Mums expensive self pouring/grinding espresso machine, i have began to take more of an active interest. *Picked up a lot already from the forum!!

    My question to the seasoned coffee drinkers of the forum is where is a good place to begin?

    Being a student, i have a lowly budget so at this point im more focused on grinding freshly...

    I just plunge at the moment with preground Lavazza, Vittoria etc from the supermarket.... are the moka stove tops worth a crack? and where can i get an inexpensive manual grinder? some of those Zassenhauses are more expensive than electric grinders!!!

    cheers

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    Re: A Good Place to Begin

    Welcome aboard nicke, the Sunbeam EM450 grinder does a good job and is inexpensive, shop around and youll probably get one for $120ish new. Get some fresh beans, no more supermarket c......p!! and use your plunger until you can afford an espresso machine. You will be able to produce great coffee for little cost. ;)

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    yea cheers!! A grinder has been in my sights for a while now...

    a cheap manual burr grinder...are they an option as im not grinding for an espresso?

    i bought a cheapie when i was living over in london for 12 quid and seemed to do the trick in the plunge... just havent seen one over here (sydney) yet

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    Hi Nick and welcome,

    for non espresso the Zassenhaus or similar quality burr grinders are great, best source of these at present is Evilbay. For Syphon and plunger I use my Zass as it saves adjusting the electric one ;)

    Plunger is fine for a brew method just dont buy espresso blends (normally) if you want to try a great one look here at Andys CS Gold for beans. Also look at Drip filter or Syphon as another good option on a budget.

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    Re: A Good Place to Begin

    This forum is a great source for the novice. Having read this thread, however, I am still having trouble working out which manual method I should try next (still quite short of affording an espresso machine).

    The Presso, MyPressi, Aeropress, pour-overs, syphons, etc. all sound interesting. I know that this is a very subjective thing, but Id really appreciate any comparisons of manual methods that would help me to get a better idea.

    I use stovetop moka pots at home and plunger at work. Have a Behmor and just ordered a Kyocera CM-50 (which I understand is like a Hario Skerton).

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    For my money an aeropress is the way to go, cheaper than most methods and gives you heaps of ways to adjust brewing. Easy to clean up after too.

    Otherwise Id go for a siphon... I really love the taste and art of these devices.
    The twist is cheap for an espresso machine but there is an ongoing cost and waste issue with the bulbs.
    A pour over is reasonably cheap but there isnt a lot to tweak with in this method other than the filter type... if you dont like pour over coffee then you dont get other taste options.

    I find moka pot brewing doesnt bring out many of the delicate flavours in coffee (read: moka to me tastes caramelly - but if you like that, no worries!) and unless ground and filtered properly a plunger can be the same.

    What sort of comparison are you looking for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4B56575A545D4C380 link=1236065719/4#4 date=1292309255
    I am still having trouble working out which manual method I should try next
    So I am I so I have one of most of the options to pick from ;)

    Depends on what sort of brew you like to drink. Their is now so many variations available within each of the options to confuse some more.

    Pour over great but lacks in body for my liking when a paper filter is used. Enter the Cloth (Neru sock) or Metal filter (Coava or Swiss Gold) for more oils and body. Lots of control over variables, temp, dose, grind ...

    Syphon great clarity but more body than paper drip and zero sludge. More limited temp control but hitting a good temp is easy with practice. Still my favorite brew method at home.

    Plunger I use one day to day at work, go a course grind, high dose and a 1 minute steep for a better brew and less sludge. Quick easy and simple for a brew when your busy and vastly underrated by a lot.

    Aeropress, not a fan due to the paper but I will give it another go when I get the coava disc to play with.

    The Kyocera is a great all rounder when used on finer grinds but it suffers a little on course IMO compared to some other hand grinders.

    Easy solution is just keep buying toys ::)

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    Re: A Good Place to Begin

    Vyapada,
    that is exactly the sort of comment I was hoping for, thank you.

    I really enjoy the varietal nature of single origin beans and am looking for something that will allow their differences to come through.

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    Haha, no worries.
    As you can see my opinion is different to beanflying... its all personal preference :)

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    It is one of the nice things about manual brewing, no exact right or wrong for any one person, the variations available and the relatively low costs involved. Best bit is still the drinking :)

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    Re: A Good Place to Begin

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    Yet another opinion ...

    Im with BF on the "keep buying toys" front, so we have quite a few manual brewing devices around the house.

    The aeropress IMHO is an essential travel companion. I take it (with a Porlex grinder) on all work trips, and we have a camping coffee kit set up around it. Its unequalled I think for ease of use and cleanup. And very good at bringing out SO nuances, but in that respect perhaps a little lacking compared to Chemex and syphon.

    So at home we alternate between Chemex and syphon. I cant say which I think is "best", sometimes for a given coffee I get better results from Chemex, other times from syphon. However these are the two methods I look to when I want the most out of a brewed coffee.

    Also use plunger occasionally. And quite often "on the grounds" cupping style (which actually gives very good results, in fact I did this all last week away at a conference because I left behind the filter holder of the aeropress). So perhaps an Eva Solo would be a candidate, but rather expensive.





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