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    Kaffeologie Aeropress stainless steel mesh filter

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    I bought one of these from BeanBay last week. Used it for the first time today.Oh wow. This is ticking all the boxes for me.

    Bean: Ethiopian Ghimbi roasted to CS8 15 days ago ago.

    Dose: Two scoops of beans and then ground to filter coarseness (in a Zassenhaus Turkish grinder)

    Method: Inverted, plunger just above the 2-cup level (ie about 2.2). Half-fill with hot water (not boiling) and let it bloom for about 30 seconds. Top up with hot water and then stir 10 x. Fit the filter and then plunge, to complete in about 20 seconds. Top up cup with hot water.

    In the Cup: Fruity and sweet with some of the fruit-cake spiciness you get from a western Ethiopian beans (eg Gambella, Kuza)), . Lingering after-taste.
    I made it in a Arcosteel ceramic keep cup so I was able to drink it over a 20 min period and I wanted it to last. Tempted to make another

    It reminded me why Ethiopia is still my favourite coffee region. I had the Ghimbi for a while but this was the first batch I had roasted.

    Verdict on the Kaffeologie: Excellent flavour transference. Easy to use and clean.

    I'll make another brew using my.006 Able disk (formerly Coava) to compare results.
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    I have been enjoying my new S filter as well.

    I like it much better than the able, smoother mouth feel, less gritty but still has all the flavours from the oils. Actually I think clarity is a good word, slightly more refined which allows the flavours to shine more.

    Also much easier to press when experimenting with finer grinds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve82 View Post
    smoother mouth feel, less gritty but still has all the flavours from the oils.
    Yes, the bottom of my cup had almost no leftover grounds. I noticed the flavour but will need to try another brew on the Able before declaring it superior in flavour transfer

    Also much easier to press when experimenting with finer grinds.
    I noticed that but, because it was the first time I had used the S filter, I wasn't sure if it was the filter or the grind. It was the same grind as what I used for a Gambella roast last week so yes, it does seem to require less force to plunge.

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    Hey! right when I was posting up my thoughts on my blog! I'll post them here too:

    Quite a while back I put up $15 towards the @Kaffeeologie S-Filter kickstarter. These guys are making stainless steel mesh filters for the Aeropress

    Last week it arrived in the mail.

    Firstly, the packaging is super cool, the art just meshes together nicely and the filter is well presented. The packaging opens up with instructions for use, a simple brewing recipe and also says thanks for buying. Oh, it also includes a quote from the 2004 US Barista Champion (Bronwen Serna) stating "This filter brews delicious coffee in my Aeropress."

    Lets take a looksy. Firstly, the instructions state that you should insert the filter mesh side up (towards aeropress not the cap). Check. That's basically it. Now brew.

    Using some 2-day-post-roast Burundi Nyamasaka CoE, I ran up my regular generic recipe:

    inverted / 15gm med-fine grinds / 200gm H2O at 94C / stir / steep for 1min / press for 25 sec

    How did it taste? Interesting, very clean, very bright, lovely mouthfeel, but a bit more acidic than what I'm used to. Could have been the beans or perhaps I need to adjust my recipe for this filter. It was still very nice.

    I can easily see this filter allows more oils through compared to the paper filter. Don't get me wrong the mesh on this filter is SUPER fine. You cannot see the "holes". There are less 'fines' in the cup.

    I brewed again, this time non-inverted (regular) and with this recipe:

    non-inverted / 17gm med-fine grinds / 40gm H2O at 94C to bloom for 20sec / another 220gm H2O / stir / fit plunger to prevent dripping wait 60sec / press for 20 sec

    This was, believe it or not, my first ever regular non-inverted brew with an aeropress. Yeah, I've never used it the regular way it was intended. You know what? This brew was just lovely. Really great flavour, mouthfeel and just the right balance.

    Now for some observations:

    * I'm a fool for never trying non-inverted before, it was really nice
    * the filter doesn't need pre-soaking, obviously. Nice time saver
    * it's well made, seem tough, looks pretty cool
    * the cap locks in okay, but be careful with this step
    * press-down of plunger seemed quite "easy", less effort
    * final cup looked more oily. nice
    * clean up was super easy. Not as easy as just ejecting the paper filter and puck straight in the bin, but still very easy, just rinse and dry

    I think with some more brewing this could be a really great paper-filter alternative. The result in the cup is very nice, well balanced, clean, flavoursome. Do yourself a favour and buy one

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    Quote Originally Posted by flynnaus View Post
    I'll make another brew using my.006 Able disk (formerly Coava) to compare results.
    Did that and the results are not as good, given that the beans are a day older. I tried as much as possible to replicate exactly the method I used yesterday.

    I didn't get the intensity of flavour that I got with the S disk. Nice, but not as nice.
    There was more resistance form the Able/Coava disk when plunging. I plunged in exactly the same time (18 seconds) but required more pressure.
    The S disk was a bit easier to clean.

    Possibly too early to call and the Able disk might work better under a different prep method.

    Interestingly, the instructions on the S disk suggest an upright (ie non-inverted_) method.

    Score: S disk 1, Able disk 0

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    Glad to see everyone getting the same great results as I did.

    We only put the Kaffeologie S Filter in CoffeeSnobs - BeanBay less than a week ago and I was surprised how many people have found them already.

    For me, I still prefer the inverted method as any fines are at the other end when you turn it over. It's those finest particles that will over extract first so having them on top when you plunge means that the flavours that I don't want in the cup are not going to get through the rest of the puck.

    Of course, each to their own and as always, do what works for you!
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    I gave the S-filter and the American Trader organic cotton one a go today (mandatory testing before adding any new product to the website ). I've only had two cups so far but there were definite differences between the flavour from the two filters - thus far I'm leaning towards the cotton one but have a lot more research to do . Using the inverted method, the S-filter is certainly easier to load into the Aeropress than the cotton one. Will keep experimenting with both and see if a clear trend develops.
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    Some really awesome notes here. Andy, very interesting about brewing inverted and fines. Greg, I honestly think that tweaking the recipe is required between paper, cloth and metal. Using the same recipe for each filter seems to give varied results as you would expect. It's interesting to brew each of them exactly the same way to discover those differences through.

    I'm getting more sediment with the S-filter than paper (obviously) but the result in the cup seems nicer to me. I've only had it a week, so a lot more experimenting required! (more coffee!) haha

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    mandatory testing before adding any new product to the website
    I've been using the Kaffeologie mesh all year which is why it was a simple choice to put the S-Filter into BeanBay (The S-Filter is the same stainless mesh but mounted better).

    Getting a little off topic but I didnt like the cotton one at all, I could taste it even after multiple washes and the storage and usage of it is fiddly and silly. I can taste paper too so the S Fliter wins hands down for me with no added flavour taints and more body for the same grind depth.

    If you can't taste paper and cotton in different brew methods then it won't make as much difference which filter you use.

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    I normally have my Aeropress coffee as a long black with a bit of cold milk. I expect the milk knocks out some of the more subtle characteristics but it's what I enjoy drinking. I could taste the difference in this setup and preferred the cloth (perhaps the extra body came through), but those who drink long blacks may prefer a different filter. I've previously used the Coava/ABLE disks and went back to paper. I guess that's the good thing about having plenty to choose from.

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    At the end of the day, what suits you is what is important. Like you said Greg, having filter options is pretty awesome!

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    Day 3: Made another brew with the S filter today. Same bean, same method . Not as flavoursome as the one I made two days ago but still smoother and better than the Able disk brew from yesterday.

    I find paper filters don't transfer flavours all that well so it looks like the S filter will be my Aeropress filter of choice from now on. I always make long blacks with the Ap these days

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    update. I have a bunch of new-version S-Filters with me which I'll be bringing to MICE/WBC in Melbourne. Unfortunately, Kaffeologie will not be attending the expo, so I'm handing out some S-Filters (and talking about /demo'ing em) on their behalf.

    These (as far as I know) are the only ones in Oz. They will be avail for retail online in time for MICE/WBC

    The differences between old and new:

    double-metal ring with mesh in between (brew with the disc inserted either way)
    spot welded mesh filter
    no logo pressed in mesh

    I've only brewed one this morning (they only arrived from the U.S. last night). Seems to perform similarly to the previous version, although with the bonus of not worrying about which way to insert it in the cap before brewing.

    If you want to try one, I'll have them at MICE, WBC, and at the World Aeropress Championships on Fri night, 24th May.

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesM View Post

    The differences between old and new:

    double-metal ring with mesh in between (brew with the disc inserted either way)
    spot welded mesh filter
    no logo pressed in mesh

    I've only brewed one this morning (they only arrived from the U.S. last night). Seems to perform similarly to the previous version, although with the bonus of not worrying about which way to insert it in the cap before brewing.

    If you want to try one, I'll have them at MICE, WBC, and at the World Aeropress Championships on Fri night, 24th May.

    Cheers
    Thanks James. Which way was I supposed to be inserting the disc on the old version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
    Thanks James. Which way was I supposed to be inserting the disc on the old version?
    Quote Originally Posted by JamesM View Post
    ...Lets take a looksy. Firstly, the instructions state that you should insert the filter mesh side up (towards aeropress not the cap). Check. That's basically it. Now brew...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
    Thanks James. Which way was I supposed to be inserting the disc on the old version?
    FWIW, I started using mine the way the instructions stated, mesh side up toward the chamber. After 10 or so uses I started using it the wrong way and prefer it.

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    it should be ok, but it's suggested stitching-up in case it 'blows out'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
    Thanks James. Which way was I supposed to be inserting the disc on the old version?
    Sorry. Left my instruction leaflet in the UK, and have tried it 'both' ways. Couldn't consistently find a preference for either....but I tend to use the Coava/Able disk for most beans...probably just a personal preference thing. I've ordered a 2nd aeropress and am going do some 'properly controlled' side-by-side taste tests to see whether my preference is genuine or just a function of random variation in brewing process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesM View Post
    it should be ok, but it's suggested stitching-up in case it 'blows out'
    Yes I thought it as much, probably reducing the longevity of mine, oh well then I shall have an excuse to buy the updated version.

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    They are amazingly priced anyway really...

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    Where does one get these know? I tried beanbay, then ordering direct from Kaffeologie?

    Anybody in OZ sell them?

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    Hi Pat,
    they will be hard to find in AU as Kaffeologie near doubled their price and have priced themselves out of the market.

    The new version of the Able FINE is far better value and is the one that I choose to travel with (ie: took it to Seattle last week for the hotel room)
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    What's different about the new one? I much preferred the open mesh of the Kaffeologie to the old Able FINE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    Hi Pat,
    they will be hard to find in AU as Kaffeologie near doubled their price and have priced themselves out of the market.

    The new version of the Able FINE is far better value and is the one that I choose to travel with (ie: took it to Seattle last week for the hotel room)
    CoffeeSnobs - BeanBay - Other Stuff - Aeropress Able Disk FINE
    They certainly appear to be beautifully made Andy. Might grab one for myself...

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