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    The aeropress is a little unsung hero, it delivers great flavour as a clean, smooth, rich coffee in next to no time yet it looks like a funny pump gadgety thing? Its also so affordable hello GFC! Most people Ive demonstrated to think the taste, body and texture is of a standard that if they had not seen the aeropress first, they would have assumed it was produced by some sort of filter machine.

    The aeropress is also a great traveller, no more instant coffee in your hotel room on that business trip! Use it at home, in the office, day trips, camping, BBQs anywhere!

    Here are 5 tips to live by:

    Grind is everything, stick to medium coarse (consistency of table salt).
    Dampen the filter with a few drops of water before you add the coffee and start the brew. This will help more of the flavour pass through the filter into your cup.
    Never pour boiling water straight from the kettle into the aeropress, wait one to two minutes then start the pour over and use the stirrer to saturate the granules and plunge between 20-30 seconds! Happy Days.
    Although perfect for black coffee drinkers, if you heat some milk or use a milk frother/plunger to make your favourite style of coffee: latte, flat white, cappuccino or straight up Americano/long black. Dont forget to cool down in Summer and have it as an iced coffee.
    Its not rocket science, super value for money.

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    Who is Eleni Lambis and why should we value her opinion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Who is Eleni Lambis and why should we value her opinion?
    The only stuff I can find on Eleni is on a site where she has started a thread "Sponsored Posts...for better or for worse"....which proceeds to talk about the "re-hash of old hack - sponsored posts in the newsfeed section of facebook". Who knows?

    Anyway, 6 clicks from zero on the Porlex Mini, inverted method with plunger fitting just touching the number (3) on the Aeropress and I reckon it makes a pretty interesting cup of coffee....though it is in no sense espresso.

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    Aeropress is nothing compared to proper espresso. Ive had to drag the AP out and use it for the past 2 weeks and really its barely acceptable at making decent coffee.

    Sorry Eleni i beg to differ on your opinion.
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    Aeropress is not an espresso maker, regardless of what the box states. It's original intention was espresso however it's just bad at it.

    It is, however, outstanding at making a great cup of filtered black coffee. There's even a world championship for aeropress brewing.

    Anyone promoting or marketing the aeropress as a great espresso maker clearly has no actual experience with the device.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesM View Post
    Aeropress is not an espresso maker, regardless of what the box states. It's original intention was espresso however it's just bad at it.

    It is, however, outstanding at making a great cup of filtered black coffee. There's even a world championship for aeropress brewing.

    Anyone promoting or marketing the aeropress as a great espresso maker clearly has no actual experience with the device.
    Spot on, James. And, in fact, it makes a very nice 'filtered black coffee with a tiny bit of warmed up milk' too. Mind you, I've never used filter paper in the thing....alternate between the coava and s-filter depending on the beans. The best thing I did was to stop attempting to emulate an espresso and treat the aeropress coffee as a different, but related, drink.

    Of course, people's tastes are different, and some don't fancy the taste of filter coffee, no matter how good it is. For some, it is probably innate, for others it's possibly an expectations things...reinforced by a lot of habit. Anyway, I really enjoy both my true espresso drinks and the aeropress stuff, and partic. like the aeropress of an afternoon (when I don't typically drink espresso).

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    a fellow (also on CS) came to our regular cupping session on Friday a couple of weeks ago and was talking about how disappointed he was with the aeropress. Lead to believe it makes espresso... I brewed him a cup on it and he seemed very impressed. It's an excellent brewer, convenient, easy to clean, but really just not great at espresso

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    I think im basing my opinion soley on the fact i went from drinking espresso daily back to AP. I think this change in flavour is far to dramatic, hence why i have such a harsh view on it.
    That said though if you drank AP constantly (which i did in the past when i didnt have an espresso machine) then it does create a satisfying cup

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    I agree, going from drinking latte to long black will get sometime to get use to but the experience is worth it, I have been drinking milk based coffee for few years but while I stayed in HK recently I have learned to drink long black, syphon, drip coffee and filtered coffee, they are popular in specialty coffee shops in HK.

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    I got an Aeropress for christmas. I now have coffee at work - I find a teaspoon of sweatened condensed milk makes a coffee I enjoy. Still working out the grind and right beans to use - have managed to make some jolly good coffee's, and a few dodgy ones...
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    Just got my aeropress last week (em6910 wasn't travelling well, I needed coffee at home and was still deciding on what new machine to get....think I made a good choice), anyway it is exactly like BOSW says, and I might add that when you have been at sea (or isolated in generral) for a long time you would be very surprised at how low you would stoop, you have to just consider it as a different drink all together which, is a tactic that I have employed on many a lonely night at sea over the years when it was just me, an empty sea, a kettle, some international roast and some suspect smelling UHT milk.......

    However, this is the sole reason for getting an aeropress (and hario grinder) so that I don't have to stoop so low as the "any port in a storm" method of caffeine delivery previously utilised. It is compact, light and seems pretty indestructible.

    However, I must admit I loved reading all of the wonderful and colourful descriptions on the box when I first got it.......almost made me want to throw my espresso machine away as the aero made the best coffee that you could get according to the praise on the box!!!

    On a slightly more serious note though, I love the coffee that this remarkably simple little device makes but is there a way to extract more of the oils into the cup? Do I have to get rid of the filter papers to do this?

    Regard f.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mariner View Post
    ... is there a way to extract more of the oils into the cup? Do I have to get rid of the filter papers to do this?
    Yes. Get yourself an Able disc, or better a Kaffeologie Stainless Filter. I don't know where else you get them, but Andy sells the S filter in Beanbay CoffeeSnobs - BeanBay .

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    I personally prefer the flavour profile of the Able, but they're so cheap you can get one of each and experiment!

    We sell both.

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    Yea, worth to get both to examine the difference and see which one you prefer. I just got both in cafebiz...^^

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    I just got one for my country work trips.
    Looking forward to experimenting with it

    I only hope that I can find a better (more consistent) hand grinder... I don't want to spend more than $100 though.

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    Aeropress

    I use a Kyocera hand grinder that I think provides me with enough consistency for my aeropress. I'm certain that it cost less than 100 dollars.

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    I use the Porlex mini ($60-$70?) which does the trick for me...haven't noticed any problem with consistency of grind......and it fits snuggly inside the Aeropress, making it an even more convenient package when luggage space is constrained. After three months of hand grinding while o/s I am, however, looking forward to getting my K3 back.

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    try looking at the orphan espresso's lido grinder. supposedly delivers more consistent grinding - i would assume it translates to less fines and a more consistent brew. that said its slightly over a 100 bucks... been eyeing it and reading reviews which all seem to be full of praise considering a hand grinder with reported similar consistency is the rossa.

    just my 2 cents

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    I think in these discussions, it's important to verify that a perceived need is an actual need. Can you taste a difference between a less expensive hand grinder and a Robur for example?

    Soon we will all need $5k grinders for mere pourover. We have the internerd to thank for that.

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    Soon we will all need $5k grinders for mere pourover.
    "Mere" pourover Chris? For some, it is almost a religion.

    For manual brewing, I the best grinder I have tried so far is a Spong #2 for around $100. Agreed, not very portable. Also very good is the Zassenhaus Turkish used for my grinding needs at work (chiefly Aeropress brews) but can't say whether this is better than the Porlex or Kyocera for grind quality as I have not tried either.

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    Anyone tried a baratza virtuoso on an aero?

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    Dont forget the cold brew you can do with the aeropress! pop it in the fridge and you can have something cool to drink whenever!

    I think its great for the morning rush or lazy mornings when i cant be bothered setting up(and cleaning) the pourover or turning on the espresso machine. Been using it over a year now and im still not done with all the filters that came with it I had a laugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhatBoy View Post
    Anyone tried a baratza virtuoso on an aero?
    I use a Baratza Preciso for all my filter coffee brewing

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    For a medium roast single bean with the Aeropress it is fantastic. The flavor is there in it's entirety nicely spread out unlike an espresso shot where the flavor is presented in a shorter time frame. It is true that nothing beats a short black but when your at work, I would choose the Aeropress over any pod machine. Wait I would drink tea instead of a pod coffee..

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    I am now starting most mornings with an Aeropress and letting my $3k espresso machine sit idle... I love the way the complexity comes through. Everyone should have an Aeropress!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauly404 View Post
    I am now starting most mornings with an Aeropress and letting my $3k espresso machine sit idle... I love the way the complexity comes through. Everyone should have an Aeropress!!!
    Yeh me too to an extent. Depends how early I'm leaving for work and whether the other half is working from home. This morning I forgot to adjust the grinder from an espresso grind setting, and made my SO Guatemala Jac in the Aeropress as normal. Tasted surprisingly good (I only noticed when the press was a bit tighter)....not quite as complex as with my normal aero setting (about 4 notches coarser on the K3)....but bloody good nevertheless. And.....I bought a second aeropress for the office.

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    I use my espresso grind every day for either espresso or Aeropress. I get a great result. The trick is to press quickly using espresso grind to avoid over-extraction.

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    See my pic for a great way to grind into an Aeropress. Clip it onto a deli grinder. Instant and no mess!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    Who is Eleni Lambis and why should we value her opinion?
    Don't know. But a bit more basic courtesy on this site would not go astray. I have an aeropress and like it on the whole. Whether anyone else chooses to listen to that opinion or to agree with it, I give not one good removed by Mods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djb3500 View Post
    Don't know. But a bit more basic courtesy on this site would not go astray. I have an aeropress and like it on the whole. Whether anyone else chooses to listen to that opinion or to agree with it, I give not one good removed by Mods.
    Yelta's post was neither offensive nor discourteous, he asked a totally appropriate question. When an unknown person is offered up as a source people have every right to ask why their opinion should be valued.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
    I use the Porlex mini ($60-$70?) which does the trick for me...haven't noticed any problem with consistency of grind......and it fits snuggly inside the Aeropress, making it an even more convenient package when luggage space is constrained. After three months of hand grinding while o/s I am, however, looking forward to getting my K3 back.
    What grind setting do you use for Aeropress on the Porlex?

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    I have noticed everyone has their own recipe for aeropress. There is one on the inside of the mesh filter I bought, every you on whotube freely tells you the 'best ever' recipe (I've got my bets on the special Swedish bottled water!)

    I fiddled around for ages, to work out the grind and amount of coffee for the brewing time and water temperature, as well as the ratio of coffee to milk.

    I don't think there is too many 'it has to be like this'. Let your taste buds decide.

    Pick an amount of coffee.
    Work out a way you can get roughly 92 degrees water temperature reliably
    Do some research on rough acceptable brew times

    Grind to suit the above, testing, and adjusting grind to suit.

    Otherwise it's too hard to copy someone's setup, unless you have the same grinder, same batch/freshness of coffee.

    For the record I have been grinding a full notch coarser than what I would use for espresso. 1 min 15seconds before I plunge. 18gms of coffee. With the plunger rubber (filled up inverted) on the bottom most blue number, the hot water is filled to the top most number.

    I have been added steamed milk at a ratio of 50/50.

    Too bitter/not enough? ? Try changing the grind. Too strong/weak? Add more/less milk.

    Not saying this is perfect, but it may help you started with the grind.

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    Well said Goner. I adjust quite significantly depending on bean (either Central or African) and roast level (sometimes I go a bit darker than I intended). But about 92 degrees is what I aim for (assuming my kettle thermometer is accurate) . I'm drinking a Huehuetenango at moment which I let slip into 2nd crack, and I find I need a coarser grind / or shorter extraction time to avoid some unpleasant tastes. I find with Aeropress that I'm a lot better at 'knowing' what to do to fix a poor brew first time than I am with espresso.

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    Love my AeroPress too...

    There are times when I just don't feel like firing up the DJE, and just want to enjoy a beaut cuppa with a minimum of fuss - The AeroPress delivers on both counts.

    As far as grind goes, with the Kony it coincidentally happens to be a setting that is exactly double what ever the setting is for espresso for that particular coffee (generally always avoid 2nd-Crack or just the first few lazy snaps). Have found that for my palate, the upside-down method gets the best all round results in the cup - Rich, deep flavour with plenty of varietal intrinsic nuances going on, no bitterness whatsoever.

    Coincidentally, I am also enjoying a very tasty Huehuetenango brew at the moment. Mmmm...

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    Behmor Brazen - $249 - Free Freight
    I've found a way to fit my aeropress and porlex mini into a single 1Lt waterproof container. Unfortunately I cannot post a picture, but there is a technique to make it all fit... This will come to work in my case.

    MODS, can I put a picture up?



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