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    Variable-temp kettles...

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    What are my options? It's not coffee-related but it's damn near close enough :P

    I'm looking for something for green tea (controllable between at least 40C and 80C) but I'm not seeing many options. The Philips HD4686/90 looks perfect, except that it's not widely available...

    Anyone got a lead on good gear?

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    That's a much broader range of temperatures than the Breville Smart Kettle which, I believe, was designed specifically for green tea.

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    Gyokkuro is a bit more delicate than Sencha/Matcha, hence the 40

    I think the Breville does 40/80/90/100?

    That said if possible I'm looking for something more durable if possible. Price no object if it comes with a reduced likelihood of eating it within a year or two.

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    PID your kettle

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    -_-

    ...

    o_o

    ...

    I hate you. I have a spare and that actually makes a lot of (really twisted) sense, bar that it will look like bollocks and lose the ability to operate cordlessly.

    (Actually, given that ideally I'd also be looking for something with a low volume, it'd almost be worth building something from scratch. Separate reservoir above, 300ml boiling tank, gravity-fed tap off the side just high enough to slide a teapot under...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragunov21 View Post
    I think the Breville does 40/80/90/100?.
    It does 80, 85,90, 95, 100.

    It's well constructed and I have had mine for much longer than a year.

    For your gyokuro, you could heat it to 80 and then let it cool to the optimum temp or work out how long it takes to reach the desired temp.

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    Or you could just add to a known quantity of room temperature water. No point overcomplicating things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragunov21 View Post
    I hate you. I have a spare and that actually makes a lot of (really twisted) sense...
    Did someone say Rube Goldberg machine??

    I love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrJack View Post
    Or you could just add to a known quantity of room temperature water. No point overcomplicating things.
    Elegant solution.

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    Does it have to be electric? My Cuisinart stovetop has a thermometer which seems to give consistent readings, which surely is all you want?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrJack View Post
    Or you could just add to a known quantity of room temperature water. No point overcomplicating things.
    sometimes it is not just a matter of getting the result, but the process of producing it that's the most fun

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    Nah, at the moment I'm just using a 600ml milk jug with my milk thermometer in it and mixing boiled/tap water to get the desired temp.

    Works just fine, but I'm just looking for something that makes the process less of a PITA, since I have to do it each time I steep, which is usually four or five times (each time boil, pour, mix to temp)

    Like I said, that Philips one is perfect (just set it to the correct temp and have it hold for ten minutes), but I'd have to get one from the UK. Hopefully someone knows of something similar available locally.

    That said, I mostly drink Sencha, so the Breville would be workable.

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    Out of interest, what tea do you need the 40 degree reading/control for?

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    I purchased a Bonavita PID controlled kettle with gooseneck spout recently, it is great for pourover etc. Just set the PID to required temp and it will come up to the selected temperature where it can be set to hold it at that temp for up to an hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
    Out of interest, what tea do you need the 40 degree reading/control for?
    Gyokuro

    Quote Originally Posted by greenman View Post
    I purchased a Bonavita PID controlled kettle with gooseneck spout recently, it is great for pourover etc. Just set the PID to required temp and it will come up to the selected temperature where it can be set to hold it at that temp for up to an hour.
    Bam! That's exactly what I'm looking for (and surprisingly cheap, even locally).

    Thanks, greenman

    *EDIT* What's the minimum temperature on that? (answered my own question; 60C, but at least it's perfect for most of what I drink)
    Last edited by Dragunov21; 2nd October 2013 at 07:13 PM.

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    The Russell Hobbs KE5000AU has a range of 40 to 100 degrees C in 5 degree increments. Sells for $99.95 locally

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    Breville has one

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    have a bonavita gooseneck variable temp kettle as well, they're pretty awesome

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    A Bonavita variable temp gooseneck here too, it's brilliant.

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    I'm liking this, given that I ordered one yesterday :3

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    I didn't realise such a thing existed but now I'm totally on board to get the Bonavita. Besides google, where do I find out where to get one? Do the sponsors sell them?

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    Not sure about sponsors (none came up when I was looking for local suppliers).

    I got mine from Padre Coffee.

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    Thanks mate, I think I might have one arriving in the mail next week too So chuffed, I'm going to have the most streamlined coffee process ever!

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    Behmor Brazen - $249 - Free Freight
    Just posting back with an update.

    Been using the BonaVita for two weeks and it's freaking sweet. The only issue I have is that the temperature hold button needs to be reset every time you lift the kettle off the base (shame, but only a small one).

    Awesome piece of kit.



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