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    Aeropress

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    Hi all,

    A couple months ago I was given an Aeropress and hand grinder for my birthday. Since then I have enjoyed experimenting with it at work with some success and some not so great coffees.

    Yesterday I was in my local specialty coffee cafe and want chatting with the guys about them and one of them who works most of the Aeropress put me into the Aeropress APP (I just put Aeropress into App Store- only one there) which give u a range of different brew recipes to brew with an Aeropress and has an inbuilt timer.
    Tried it out tonight and it's quiet good, looking forward to experimenting tomorrow more with it.

    Just thought it might help others.

    Question though- what brew reciepies/methods is your favourite??
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    Thanks mmmcoffee, it looks interesting.

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    the App does not mention water temperature? I thought that was also important.

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    Also only gives amounts of coffee in 'scoops' not grams...

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    Hi ddhytz the water shouldn't be boiling about 90degrees. I just add a splash of cool water into my boiling water then add this to the Aeropress.
    As far as weight of coffee, they suggest the scoops because this is what the Aeropress comes with. Test different amounts and grinds coarseness it's part of the adventure.
    I really enjoy my Aeropress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmmcoffee View Post
    Hi ddhytz the water shouldn't be boiling about 90degrees. I just add a splash of cool water into my boiling water then add this to the Aeropress.
    As far as weight of coffee, they suggest the scoops because this is what the Aeropress comes with. Test different amounts and grinds coarseness it's part of the adventure.
    I really enjoy my Aeropress.
    Aeropress was invented by Alan Adler... The man who built Aerobie (which is a frisbee on steroids)

    Basically, as far as mmmcoffee is concerned, Boiled coffee is spoiled coffee... in which most baristas are familiar with the phrase....

    The important things to focus on is,

    Coffee bean quality, Water Quality, Water temperature, Coffee-Water Ratio, Grind size, filter type, pressure levels, the saturation level, the brew time and so on

    Keep it a complex brew and be happy!!!

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    RayT what's your thoughts in the paper filters supplied with Aeropress vs the stainless aftermarket ones? Heard good and bad of both. Had a barista who looks after all Aeropress coffees in that cafe when I asked about the, say just use the paper ones don't worry about the stainless ones. I thought stainless allowed more of the oils through into the cup??

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    Personally...

    I love the s/s filters, mostly use the fine one. I would imagine in a commercial situation, the extra time required to be devoted to cleaning the s/s filters may be better used selling more coffee. With the paper filters you just throw them out with the spent puck...

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    The paper filters will have constant replacements as a requirement....

    And the stainless doesnt need replacements

    Anyways the property of the metal filters are great, More coffee oils than paper (since paper absorbs coffee oils) and no sediment (the holes are small and tight)

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    If you could, get a metal filter from Able....

    Sorry for the late reply......

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    No worries on time Ray appreciate the reply from u and Mal! That was my thoughts on the stainless filters, but was interested on the baristas response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmmcoffee View Post
    No worries on time Ray appreciate the reply from u and Mal! That was my thoughts on the stainless filters, but was interested on the baristas response.
    Good luck and keep on brewing ;D

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    I use paper filters and reuse them.

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    I've only recently made the switch to ss filters at work on my aeropress. Im in the 'fan of' club. With my humble palette I honestly can't detect any discernible improvement or decrease in quality.... Just one less thing to worry about. Dead easy to clean too. I've made much more noticeable changes in flavour by tweaking volume of coffee beans, grind and actual roast depth of my beans.
    Great little app tho, thanks for sharing... Given me something to play with at wk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddhytz View Post
    I use paper filters and reuse them.
    Disposable paper products are generally meant to be used once and then either binned or flushed. Just sayin'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinitasse View Post
    Disposable paper products are generally meant to be used once and then either binned or flushed. Just sayin'
    Vinitasse, Re using them??!!!!!

    This man seems to love the taste of stale coffee mixed into fresh coffee!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinitasse View Post
    Disposable paper products are generally meant to be used once and then either binned or flushed. Just sayin'
    Sorry I did not make it clearer last night.

    I mainly make cold brew coffee at home (twice a week) since I discovered that method a few months back and use aeropress to extract coffee. Due to AP's limit on volume I have to do 3-4 filtering every time when the coffee is ready. In other words one paper filter is used for 5-6 times on the same day. I did mean the paper filter was washed, dried, then stored for future use.


    A S/S filter will add flavour in the coffee because of the oils. But some people believe that the oils may contribute to heath issue to a small percentage of drinkers - not sure how true it is though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RayTCoffeePro View Post
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    This man seems to love the taste of stale coffee mixed into fresh coffee!!!!!
    Thanks for the warning. Fortunately I am not doing it.

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    I've had an Aeropress for about two years now, using it 2-3 times per day. In general, I've been very happy with the results. Very quick to make the coffee, it's tasty, and quick to clean.

    After a few months of use, I began to notice what looked like pitting inside the main cylinder. Upon closer inspection they were not pits, but lumps (or bulges) of plastic. Over time these lumps grew linearly into a fractal-like pattern, but running more vertically than other directions. They started near the top of the cylinder and have now almost covered the top half of the inside of the cylinder. It's at the point now where it doesn't keep a good seal, despite scraping off excess on a number of occasions.

    For a $50 device lasting two years, I'm pretty happy, but reluctant to get another one because the lumps are presumably being caused by something in the plastic leeching out. It's a bit worrying not knowing what it is and what it might do to me. Anyway, I'm looking at a machine now... perhaps a Breville BES920.

    Has anybody else had the same experience with the plastic lumps growing? I'm really curious whether it's a common thing, or I'm doing something wrong, or I just got a dud Aeropress.

    Thanks, J.

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    G'day JCreamy...

    Sounds like a possible manufacturing fault mate . Have owned and used mine for many years and the only thing I have had to replace, was the rubber piston on the plunger. The original one started to perish...

    Mal.

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    Mmm will keep an eye on mine but all looks fine. I agreed with Mal sounds like a manufacturing problem, might be worth getting in thought with Aeropress

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    Alright, I'll send them a note. Will let you know the result.

    Thanks.

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    Aerobie has responded. They said it's crazing that can occur under a certain combination of manufacturing and brewing conditions. Although they didn't mention what those conditions were, they said they'd fixed it on the manufacturing side and would send me a new chamber and rubber seal.

    I'm glad about that because I really do like my Aeropress.

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    Excellent result J. ...

    Mal.

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    Congrats JC! Aeropress is back!!

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    Well, I just made myself the best Aeropress that I have ever tasted. Now ever since I bought it off Yelta I think.. I haven't really been all that impressed. But now, I think I may have cracked it.

    15g
    Invert and set plunger to the number 3
    Set MM 1.5 numbers courser than espresso
    95 degree water
    Fill to top
    Stir for 10 seconds
    Steep for 20 more seconds
    Invert and press and enjoy.

    I have used it now more times in the past three days than since I bought it! Anyway, no longer a skeptic

    Michael
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    Quote Originally Posted by mwcalder05 View Post
    Well, I just made myself the best Aeropress that I have ever tasted. Now ever since I bought it off Yelta I think.. I haven't really been all that impressed. But now, I think I may have cracked it.

    15g
    Invert and set plunger to the number 3
    Set MM 1.5 numbers courser than espresso
    95 degree water
    Fill to top
    Stir for 10 seconds
    Steep for 20 more seconds
    Invert and press and enjoy.

    I have used it now more times in the past three days than since I bought it! Anyway, no longer a skeptic

    Michael
    Great result Michael, pleased to hear its working for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwcalder05 View Post
    Well, I just made myself the best Aeropress that I have ever tasted. Now ever since I bought it off Yelta I think.. I haven't really been all that impressed. But now, I think I may have cracked it.

    15g
    Invert and set plunger to the number 3
    Set MM 1.5 numbers courser than espresso
    95 degree water
    Fill to top
    Stir for 10 seconds
    Steep for 20 more seconds
    Invert and press and enjoy.

    I have used it now more times in the past three days than since I bought it! Anyway, no longer a skeptic

    Michael
    Thanks Michael, I'll have to give this a go tonight. Bough mine last Friday so I'm very new at this. Do you find if you dont invert the Aeropress the water starts pouring down into your cup before you start pressing on it? I tried adjusting my grind but it seems to go through no matter what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwcalder05 View Post
    Well, I just made myself the best Aeropress that I have ever tasted. Now ever since I bought it off Yelta I think.. I haven't really been all that impressed. But now, I think I may have cracked it.

    15g
    Invert and set plunger to the number 3
    Set MM 1.5 numbers courser than espresso
    95 degree water
    Fill to top
    Stir for 10 seconds
    Steep for 20 more seconds
    Invert and press and enjoy.

    I have used it now more times in the past three days than since I bought it! Anyway, no longer a skeptic

    Michael
    Nice work Michael.
    Sounds very similar to my technique - but I used the same grind as I use for espresso and about 20g coffee (same as a triple basket amount). Can be pretty hard work pushing it through - but a super rich & strong brew (though works better with a more filter-roasted coffee or it gets too bitter & roasty for my tastes to drink black).
    But it can be an awesome brew when done right!
    Cheers Matt

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    non inverted method. 17g coffee 228g, 98 degree water. pour all water in, stir (NSEW) leave till 1:30s, stir again. Push down over 30 sec. 2:00 minute total time

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    Quote Originally Posted by beandancing View Post
    non inverted method. 17g coffee 228g, 98 degree water. pour all water in, stir (NSEW) leave till 1:30s, stir again. Push down over 30 sec. 2:00 minute total time
    Of course using filter coffee

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    If you're interested there's a youtube video that shows the aeropress producing a shot of espresso....

    Google it..
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    My Aeropess has has recently taken on overtime as a multi functional unit, being a ghetto cold drip device when not with me at work producing beautiful serves of hot coffee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mwcalder05 View Post
    Well, I just made myself the best Aeropress that I have ever tasted. Now ever since I bought it off Yelta I think.. I haven't really been all that impressed. But now, I think I may have cracked it.

    15g
    Invert and set plunger to the number 3
    Set MM 1.5 numbers courser than espresso
    95 degree water
    Fill to top
    Stir for 10 seconds
    Steep for 20 more seconds
    Invert and press and enjoy.

    I have used it now more times in the past three days than since I bought it! Anyway, no longer a skeptic

    Michael
    Great job Michael! You know what, it sounds similar to my process of making coffee in Aeropress and it's nice to know that what you did works too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RayTCoffeePro View Post
    The paper filters will have constant replacements as a requirement....

    And the stainless doesnt need replacements

    Anyways the property of the metal filters are great, More coffee oils than paper (since paper absorbs coffee oils) and no sediment (the holes are small and tight)
    I've recently converted to the S/S disk, and I have found a massive improvement in flavour. I did notice though, that there is more sediment than the paper filter, and that's with the fine disk. It's not necessarily a bad thing, just an observation.
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    I've been 'chewing' through a bag of PNG wahgi (I murdered them by missing 2nd crack & roasting way too dark ) at work through the aeropress. These beans started with some oils on them when I bagged them, and now a couple of weeks later look like sugary glazed pastries... Anyway, have been grinding fine like always and really not enjoying the result at all, in fact they are burnt, bitter and could double as drain cleaner. Decided before ditching to go the other extreme way. I've today ground them to a really quite coarse level and the result ? SENSATIONAL! Smooth, sweet, bright finish. Haven't changed my aeropress process - still inverted, (level 3) 1/2 fill hot water, throw in grounds, stir, top up, wait 20 seconds and slow push. Maybe this isn't news to most, but I've been stuck on fine grinds for ages, so was really surprised by the huge & positive variation by going coarse on a very, very dark roast.
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    Yeah, good observation.

    Coarse grinds and/or much shorter brew time can adjust the process enough to totally change the result in the cup.

    I'll often find that on fine grind settings I'll make the coffee as fast as I can (inverted, add water "off the boil", add grinds, quick stir, invert, press) to get the best results.

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    If i have the Aeropress, will i need a fine or a course grind? Or if its my choice, whats the difference between a fine or course grind in terms of taste?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcdusk View Post
    If i have the Aeropress, will i need a fine or a course grind? Or if its my choice, whats the difference between a fine or course grind in terms of taste?
    I have found I actually get a better coffee from a coarse grind. I also found not resting too long makes a better brew too. I haven't thought why...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan77 View Post
    I have found I actually get a better coffee from a coarse grind. I also found not resting too long makes a better brew too. I haven't thought why...
    ....the longer you brew the coffee and finer the grind the more the chance it will over-extract and become excessively bitter / burnt tasting. So, if you grind as per espresso and brew for 2 minutes it doesn't does so good

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    Like Andy, I find that more coffee (25g), a finer grind (almost espresso grind), add water off boil (1/2 AP worth), stir & press gives me an almost espresso style syrupy strong brew, but works best with slightly lighter roasts - I don't really like espresso roasts out of it - has that 'roasty' flavour that is not great - but not bitterness necessarily.
    But if you're after a filter style brew - then adding more water / larger grind / longer brew will give that style of result
    Cheers Matt
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    Given you are only changing one variable at a time think of it this way

    Grind: fine=more surface area=more extraction

    Water temp:hotter=more solutes will dissolve=higher extraction

    Water/coffee contact:longer=more extraction

    Water volume:more=more extraction along concentration gradient (coffee may actually taste more dilute though due to larger water volume)

    Agitation: more= more extraction.

    Pressure: higher=more extraction

    Under extracted coffee=sour

    Over extracted coffee=bitter

    The trick is to manipulate the above mentioned variables to create a recipe and produce a coffee that falls on the appropriate part of the extraction continuum that suits your palate/tastes

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    There is no one recipe!!! I was asked by someone the other day how to make the best Aeropress, I told him there are many many ways, everyone has there own method, I vary mine based on what beans I am using but using filtered water will make a tonne of difference!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peety View Post
    There is no one recipe!!! I was asked by someone the other day how to make the best Aeropress, I told him there are many many ways, everyone has there own method, I vary mine based on what beans I am using but using filtered water will make a tonne of difference!
    Very true - especially as the AP can be used for such a wide range of styles and methods.

    There's a more recent thread somewhere with some tried-and-true recipes.

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    Just out of interest ran some espresso roasted beans through the A/P last night using my usual method (18g coffee, water off boil, just over half filled, stir for 10sec or so and press straight away) but significantly coarser grind (I usually grind 3 notches coarser from espresso settings on the Lido - last night 6 notches).

    Really removed the 'roasty-ness' I was getting from espresso beans - without going to a lighter roast. Smooth, light acidity - very drinkable! Weren't the most interesting beans I've roasted lately - but encouraged me to keep experimenting with the 'plastic wizard'!
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