Post By EspressoAdventurer
Post By mulquemi
Post By LeroyC
Post By LeroyC
Strange looking twin wand stovetop steamer!
Good evening coffeesnobs,
I collected this stovetop steamer today ,most convenient as I was originally after a Bellman unit.
This stovetop steamer is in absolutely perfect condition,doubt whether it’s had much use ,every thing about it seems original,plastic parts are all very solid and built to last,as is the heavy gauge stainless steel body/steamer wands.
Nothing stamped or any printing anywhere to indicate a country of origin,inside there are numbers suggesting cup measurements (up to 9).
What I find odd about this is the two separate steamer wands ,as seen one on the aluminium top together with the locking knob while the biggest steam wand opposite the combination handle/over pressure valve.
l’ve steamed milk several times using both wands and noticed the longer wand gives the more powerful steam!
Both can happily operate simultaneously,not sure what the point of that would be.
Happy to have someone who may have seen or used this model before give some background information.
Anyway works really well and so much more powerful then domestic coffee machine frothers.
I’m leaning towards installing this along with my ROK espresso maker for our caravan trips,I’m very impressed with it.
Sorry about the upside down image,cannot reverse it...tried and gave up!
Last edited by mulquemi; 25th February 2018 at 07:39 PM.
Reason: dodgy punctuation!
I donít think theyíre both steam wands. The short one is for coffee I think, and the long one for steam. If thereís a filter basket in there similar to a Bialetti one and a shower screen up under the cap then itís definitely capable of making coffee as well. As youíve found out theyíre actually very capable steamers. I havenít seen this actual model before so Iím just guessing, but Iíd say itís a Vesuvio.
Is this pic better?
You are a magician,how did you do that?
How would Coffee go in this,can’t work it out!
Looks like the coffee grounds holder is missing which explains how the machine also would make coffee using the shorter wand...not for steaming as you suggested.
Last edited by mulquemi; 25th February 2018 at 08:47 PM.
Reason: Image included.& checked YouTube as well.
If I were in a trivia night & forced to give an answer, Id say
It could be a Bellman...but earlier version. Not the CX25 recent version.
And the 'top centre' most arm would drain off the coffee liquor. There could / should be a
basket under that top similar to a stovetop unit.
Now if you come across another ...... !
Match that to your ROK, a Lido, fresh beans and your rocking in the camp ground !
Thanks for the information,most certainly earlier variation, Italian likely .
I happened to also have an older Breville TE101 240volt machine gathering dust,by chance the basket assembly/silicone basket sealer fitted perfectly ,could say was meant to be!
All connected together and this evening made four magnificent cappuccino’s and the frothier works up such a micro foam,I couldn’t be happier,just great.Now I can pack this together with the small burr grinder straight into the (pool room) caravan.
Thanks for the helpful advice,all came together this evening,another new direction in my Coffee journey.
Itís not a Bellman. By the time Bellman bought this particular patent itís previous owners Benjamin and Medwin had already developed the current CX25 design. Bellman have since improved it by making all internal metal parts stainless steel, improving the steam wand, improving the valves and knobs and using better seals. Benjamin and Medwin bought the patent off another company that I canít remember who I think were the ones that first bought it off Vesuvio, the original Italian designers. The Vesuvio name has since been relaunched, but itís US based and not the original company.
Originally Posted by EspressoAdventurer
BUT, it IS a Bellman ancestor of some sort. Seeing as this model doesnít have Made in Italy stamped on the bottom itís possibly made by the company that first bought the patent off Vesuvio and started having the units manufactured elsewhere. It would be nice to know, but at the end of the day it doesnít really matter. The good thing about these models though is that the parts are mostly interchangeable, as Mick has already discovered. If you need to buy new seals or filters Mick you will be able to buy Bellman ones from someone like Di Bartoli. As I said the new ones are stainless so if your old Breville one is looking a bit rough it would be a good upgrade.
Also the Breville models were made in the same factory and just rebranded for Breville. Thatís why the parts fit. This is a great find and should be capable of making some great coffee. They often fetch a premium on eBay as well if you ever want to sell it.
I see youíve got gas as well Mick. Thatís awesome, they work best on gas as you have direct control over the heat, just make sure the flame doesnít lick up the side at all. Also I used to always use pre-boiled water as it speeds up the process and doesnít have the dry coffee bed Ďcookingí over heat too long.