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    Induction stove top moka / mocha options

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    Hi all.

    Longer time lurker, first time poster.

    Here's the situation I'm looking for advice/opinions on a new stovetop moka that works on induction.

    Previous to having induction I used Bialetti Brikka on gas (https://www.bialetti.com/coffee/stov...-c-1_7_24.html), which i loved. Loved the crema (I know it's not a true crema), loved the way it brewed and loved the way it tasted. When we upgraded our kitchen and went induction, I purchased the Bialetti Venus (https://www.bialetti.com/coffee/stov...-c-1_7_21.html). Although I have never been satisfied with the brew I get from the venus and have ongoing issues with the pressure valve not working properly. I've hit up the retailer for a replacement because of the valve issues,but now I am looking for some different options. I have spent some time reading previous posts and reviews (this one being my favourite https://coffeesnobs.com.au/brewing-e...ess-steel.html), but still after e advice.

    There are other options I have found: Bialetti moka induction, bialleti kitty and venus https://www.bialetti.com/coffee/stov...-c-1_7_21.html (just different shapes right?), but unsure of what the differences are and if it will do a different brew:

    One good option looks like the Bellman cx25p but it shows to use induction must be suitable for 304 grade stainless. My cooktop I am unsure is suitable (https://www.winningappliances.com.au...ions-Sheet.pdf). I realise you can purchase the compatible induction cooker separately, but if I did that, I may as well just buy a small gas cooker and go back to the brikka... which is of course an option, just not my ideal one.

    The other possibility, which I have read about once, but unsure if it will work, is using the a SS base, with a brikka top... the issue is figuring what sizes will match. Has anyone done this before?

    Any other (not so expensive) options?

    Many thanks.

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    Your best option is to purchase an induction adapter. For this Google is your best friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erimus View Post
    Your best option is to purchase an induction adapter. For this Google is your best friend.
    Ah yes... Another option I overlooked. But I have done some previous research on these adapters and probably not what I'd prefer to utilise : https://www.centurylife.org/the-inef...ernatives-are/

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    A one or two ring camping stove could be your other solution. These can be picked up very cheaply at Big W or K Mart. When I use my Bialetti, I much prefer using gas over electric. Electric's a pita to say the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erimus View Post
    A one or two ring camping stove could be your other solution.
    Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, I already have a gas camping stove, but before I revert back to that option (undesirable), I'm looking at alternative options for induction compatible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Erimus View Post
    Electric's a pita to say the least.
    Pita?

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    Can highly recommend this one from a Site Sponsor...
    Does a great job and produces excellent coffee.

    Mal.

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    Needs must as the devil drives.

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    No idea where you can get one in Oz, however my Rommelsbacher's are German made (very) high quality stainless. Bought in for me Germany by a fellow coffee fiend. BTW, avoid the clear one - it is plastic and destroys the flavour. Stay with all Stainless.

    They are similar to an electric kettle as they have their own "mains plate" under the unit. Controlled by a microprocessor I suspect, as you just fill the lower bit with water, fill the basket (I have both 3/6 and 2/4 cup versions) up to the mark and "hit the go button". Pretty tolerant of different grinds.

    Best and easiest "moka pot" I know- I have a few Carmencita's (original stainless steel version) in my shed - at my best I can equal the Rommelsbacher via a manual process, mostly the Rommelsbacher does it better.

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    Yep, I also have an inductor stove and my favourite "Carmencita knock off" is 316 stainless. Non-magnetic so it cannot work on my stovetop anyway, which is why I ended up with my Rommelsbachers. The knockoff also beats the my Carmencita originals.
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    Hi, a bit late to the thread but a question for Tampit. I'm just wondering about your Rommelsbacher. Mine came with a hole in the stem of the basket about a 1/3 of the way down, which is there by design apparently, but in my experience allows so much vapour leakage that the brew doesn't happen properly. I ended up blocking it with a small 4g stainless steel screw. Does yours have a hole? Have you left it open?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tjwhite View Post
    Hi, a bit late to the thread but a question for Tampit. I'm just wondering about your Rommelsbacher. Mine came with a hole in the stem of the basket about a 1/3 of the way down, which is there by design apparently, but in my experience allows so much vapour leakage that the brew doesn't happen properly. I ended up blocking it with a small 4g stainless steel screw. Does yours have a hole? Have you left it open?
    G'day Tjwhite (Polk Salad Annie anyone?)

    Mine don't - the basket's stems and sides are 100% "sealed solid" - and have to be for it to work. Even if the hole starts off under the water line, it will halt the process as soon as it is exposed.

    Please send a photo asap (PM me is fine) as I (may still) currently have a friend over in Germany (the one who bought all of mine / my friends ones). I can email to bring another basket if needed. What model is yours? The 2/4 and 3/6 are different baskets.

    I guess the other question is where are you? If in WA I would like to see it in the flesh.

    Enjoy your screwed up coffee... Good fix!

    TampIt

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    Hi, thank you, no worries about sending one - the screw works good. I had a bit of an exchange with Rommelsbacher and they tried to get me to use different grinds however I found that with just about any grind (or quantity) of coffee the brew really struggled when the water went below the hole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tjwhite View Post
    Hi, thank you, no worries about sending one - the screw works good. I had a bit of an exchange with Rommelsbacher and they tried to get me to use different grinds however I found that with just about any grind (or quantity) of coffee the brew really struggled when the water went below the hole.

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    G'day again

    Clearly faulty, no way that could work. It looks like a 2/4 cup version in the photo. Still a good fix - impressive improvisation - well done.

    I am a bit surprised by Rommelsbacher. Considering they would have a failure rate approaching zero, I would have expected better (lessons from LM perhaps?).

    TampIt

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    When I first contacted them I did wonder if it was there by accident. Their reply was "The hole in the side of the stem of the filter funnel is no failure, but desired with regard to construction." I'm still baffled by it. I lost a good 20+ brews to it before giving up and blocking it with the screw.



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