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Thread: Possible lookin at the Flair

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    Possible lookin at the Flair

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    So I am in the market for an espresso machine with a budget of$300 (possible able to push it out a little). I was looking at a second hand em6910 or Silvia (if I am lucky). However I have a breville bmf 600 milk froather and I have always liked the idea of a manual machine. So how would you say the Flair stacks up? Quality of shot? Wife friendly? I will be making most of the coffee, but if I am not home or playing videogames 😝
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    We've had a Flair here at home now since October 2017 and this combined with our Brazen, gifted by Andy, produces some of the best coffee we've made with all manner of machines and equipment over the (many) years.

    Can't recommend the Flair system too highly and there's lots of information around to help you get going in the right direction...

    Mal.
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    As Mal says, the quality of the espresso shot produced by the Flair is fantastic. I use mine for weeks on end when away from home, and sometimes at home too. You will need a decent grinder (as you will with all of your other machine options). IF you use pre-ground supermarket coffee you are likely to be disappointed and doubt the machine.

    With the correct grind setting, the lever action is not onerous and should be 'wife-friendly'. Once you get a routine worked out (preheat the various parts of the brewing unit and espresso cup, grind and dose, add water, pull the shot) the whole process can be completed in about 3 minutes. I don't use a milk frother, so if making a milk-based drink I gently microwave milk in my drinking cup for about 45 seconds at the time I add near boiling water to the Flair. Typically I finish pulling the shot at the time the milk is done. I pour the espresso into my drinking cup, and if needed zap for another 10 secs in mwave. Makes a great flat white. The unit is also easy to clean.
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    Ditto to all above. If I was buying again and had the budget I think I'd consider the Signature Pro purely for the larger shot volume.
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    I did see the pro also, unfortunately out of my budget although I may try for an increase. Extra so shot volume is definitely a plus (especially raising twins) the pressure gauge may be useful for the wife.

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    I had the Breville BES 870. Could make a drinkable coffee but not much better than that. And my wife couldn't/wouldn't use it.

    Was going to upgrade to something well over the $1k mark... perhaps even $2k with grinder, when I discovered the Flair.

    I've paired it with a Lido 3 hand grinder and, though still a relative novice, now find the coffee at home better than the vast majority of those I can get elsewhere. The ones my wife makes taste even better.

    I bought a pressure gauge kit. Was told it was wasted money by experienced Forum members. At first I thought they were wrong... and it was fun watching the gauge as I pulled the shot. But I don't think it improved my coffee and it's unused now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushtocup View Post
    I had the Breville BES 870. Could make a drinkable coffee but not much better than that. And my wife couldn't/wouldn't use it.
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    I found with the Bes 870 I got ordinary results when I used supermarket beans but was happy with the results from specialist fresh roasted beans. And yes my wife will not use it but insists on two coffees a day or else!
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    Quote Originally Posted by saeco_user View Post
    Ditto to all above. If I was buying again and had the budget I think I'd consider the Signature Pro purely for the larger shot volume.
    Still petitioning the wife for a budget increase, but apparently new models will accept the larger brew head with a plastic adapter for the smaller one, so if I do buy the signature I can upgrade to the later pro head later
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushtocup View Post
    I had the Breville BES 870. Could make a drinkable coffee but not much better than that. And my wife couldn't/wouldn't use it.

    Was going to upgrade to something well over the $1k mark... perhaps even $2k with grinder, when I discovered the Flair.

    I've paired it with a Lido 3 hand grinder and, though still a relative novice, now find the coffee at home better than the vast majority of those I can get elsewhere. The ones my wife makes taste even better.




    I bought a pressure gauge kit. Was told it was wasted money by experienced Forum members. At first I thought they were wrong... and it was fun watching the gauge as I pulled the shot. But I don't think it improved my coffee and it's unused now.
    Wanna sell the pressure gauge kit to me then?



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