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    Clean then Descale or Descale then Clean?

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    Hi

    I have a Sunbeam EM6910 and have been fairly lax in cleaning / descaling.
    As I now have some time and some Cino Cleaner and Cino descaler I was given,

    Which option is recommended

    1. Clean then Descale?
    2. Descale then Clean?

    Thanks

    Ben

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    Re: Clean then Descale or Descale then Clean?

    Clean, then descale.

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    Re: Clean then Descale or Descale then Clean?

    I always do a clean after any major work or de scale to ensure any chemicals are removed.

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    Re: Clean then Descale or Descale then Clean?

    i ran out of time
    did the descale then clean


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    Re: Clean then Descale or Descale then Clean?

    To some extent, Im sure that its an academic exercise. I would guess that a standard dose of either chemical will be strong enough to get the job done regardless of which order they are applied in.

    The detergent is basic, whereas the descaler is acidic, so whatever you do, its probably a good idea to make sure that the first solution is gone before applying the second.

    I guess that the other consideration is that coffee oil might cover up scale, protecting it from the descaler. I suppose that that probably isnt likely to be a big deal for a HX machine or a single boiler because the scale buildup will probably not be at a point that coffee oils will reach, but Im not sure how that works for a thermoblock like yours.

    If you put the two together, I guess that the best thing to do is to clean first, rinse, then descale. The gotcha is that detergent seems to require more rinising than descaler, so Id try and do a thorough rinse.

    Just some thoughts ...

    Luca

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    Re: Clean then Descale or Descale then Clean?

    In normal use, you will clean more often than descale. This means that some scale will be under the dirt that caked on since the last time you cleaned. You want to clean before descale so that:

    • The descaler can work more effectively by having the scale exposed; not shielded by a deposit of coffee oils and solids.
    • Once the scale is detached, you want the machine to be clean enough so that the scale residues can actually be flushed out. If its not clean, some of the scale flakes can stick and actually cause a blockage.


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    Re: Clean then Descale or Descale then Clean?

    Thanks all for the input.

    I love the simple question turning into an academic debate ;)

    As I said, I did the descale then the clean and rinsed thoroughly in between.
    Then reseasoned with several shots.

    I suppose the lesson to be learned is clean regularly and descale as often as required.

    B



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