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    Hey guys, was using my father in laws 6910 today and as I begun to pull a shot, and it was all going well, the (loud) pump was going, but them when the water came through to the coffee and the pump dropped off considerably until almost no water came through the coffee.

    What the?? is the pump got significant issues- need some medical assistance?? :o

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    Re: Em6910 problem

    Hi,

    Sounds to me like you ground the coffee too fine. I would have backed off the grind (gone coarser) then tried again.

    The pump on the EM6910 will quieten down when its under load.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7474747A767F7F7C7C190 link=1240057347/0#0 date=1240057347
    Hey guys, was using my father in laws 6910 today and as I begun to pull a shot, and it was all going well, the (loud) pump was going, but them when the water came through to the coffee and the pump dropped off considerably until almost no water came through the coffee.

    What the?? is the pump got significant issues- need some medical assistance?? :o
    Sounds like it...

    Then again it could have been over tamped / too fine etc ?

    1: What happens when you run a manual with no grinds ?

    Need more info..

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    I did try tamping lighter, better response, still a little quiet. Didnt tamp all that heavy first time round.

    Didnt try on manual with no grinds, will get him to check it.

    Just a little concerned about it and whether it will last/first signs of some impending issues, and whether or not he should get it check out/take it back??

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6F6F6F616D64646767020 link=1240057347/3#3 date=1240059844
    I did try tamping lighter, better response, still a little quiet. Didnt tamp all that heavy first time round.

    Didnt try on manual with no grinds, will get him to check it.

    Just a little concerned about it and whether it will last/first signs of some impending issues, and whether or not he should get it check out/take it back??
    As per ACog... Could also be the grind.... Also teh beans...

    Hate to say it but in most cases it is often a USER error or a outcome from lack of user performing any number of things..

    However we all ten to jump on the wagon and point at the equipment..... Before looking at ones self.

    Let us know how it pans out..

    PS... What was teh gauge displaying and what sort of a grinder ?



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    Maybe you should try a blank shot with both the pressurised (to add resitance) and non-pressurised filter baskets. If nothing comes out using the pressurised baskets then something is probably wrong.

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    Will do thanks guys, hard when not ur equipment and its been set up by others, will check grind and ask about beans next time, but I know he uses supermarket beans unfortunatley.
    Will run some more tests thought nxt time Im over!! Can be fun getting used to peoples different machines and grinders huh. :)

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    Re: Em6910 problem

    mmmcoffee,

    Next time you go back and play with the machine, I would recommend beginning with a coarser grind and working your way back to finer, rather than the other way around.

    The pumps on these machines have a 5 year warranty from memory (could be 3) so theyre unlikely to break IMO as it sounds like sunbeam has confidence in them and even if it does, it should still be covered.

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    Re: Em6910 problem

    How often is it cleaned?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6A564B505A5B4C59515A3E0 link=1240057347/8#8 date=1240227131
    How often is it cleaned?

    Yea If like a few we have seen, then never and the top shower screen is full and after a few days of sitting... Cakes hard and nothing is going to shift it...

    That is, until you remove and do a proper clean..

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    Was around there yesterday and my father in law tried using it and similar prob the machine went dead quiet and almost nothing came out. I adjusted grind courser but still no love asked him about cleaning hes had it about 6 months and hasnt chemically cleaned it just blind backwashed it a couple times. I backwased but still did it with course grind and very little ramp. He has is passed ground very find to try get short concentrated shots, often I saw the shot would only just drip out. Will this have effected/hurt the pump/machine??

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3B3B3B353930303333560 link=1240057347/10#10 date=1240749616
    Was around there yesterday and my father in law tried using it and similar prob the machine went dead quiet and almost nothing came out. I adjusted grind courser but still no love asked him about cleaning hes had it about 6 months and hasnt chemically cleaned it just blind backwashed it a couple times. I backwased but still did it with course grind and very little ramp. He has is passed ground very find to try get short concentrated shots, often I saw the shot would only just drip out. Will this have effected/hurt the pump/machine??

    If your in South Brisbane... Where is he ?

    1: Sounds like Dirty and and any number of other issues... (PF Baskets / Crap Beans / etc etc)

    2: Hate to be rude, but more User issues rather than Machine..

    Did you see how it ran with the two different PF baskets with no beans ?

    At some stage, treating teh machine / any machine like this will cause bigger problems and can lead to a major fail.

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    Re: Em6910 problem

    hes in Redland Bay.

    Im taking some chemical cleaner over next week and having a play and clean time- take off the shower screen, backwash and chemical clean- hasnt had this yet in 6 months of regular use.

    will also test with different baskets and Im picking up some fresh beans from Di Bella to try too.

    Eliminating one thing at a time, to source the problem. :-?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7A7A7A747871717272170 link=1240057347/12#12 date=1240836792
    Im taking some chemical cleaner over next week and having a play and clean time- take off the shower screen, backwash and chemical clean- hasnt had this yet in 6 months of regular use.
    Whoa!

    Better take your overalls with you mate, and roll up the sleeves... Going to be some lovely stuff glued in and around the Group and 3-Way Valve... :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6161616F636A6A69690C0 link=1240057347/12#12 date=1240836792
    hes in Redland Bay.

    Im taking some chemical cleaner over next week and having a play and clean time- take off the shower screen, backwash and chemical clean- hasnt had this yet in 6 months of regular use.

    will also test with different baskets and Im picking up some fresh beans from Di Bella to try too.

    Eliminating one thing at a time, to source the problem. :-?
    As Mal said ... Get ready for a good work out..

    I was only just down there the other day.. Assisting another mate...

    My dad was just rushed to Hospital to other day and is still under going more surgery and tests ect Now all things being = I will be taking him home Thursday ( W/Manly) and also seeing a mate or 2 down that way...

    If I have an 1hr or two up my sleeve... I am happy to drop in...

    Let me know ASAP...

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    yeah guys sure it will be a little interesting, needless to say I have already encouraged him to get some cleaning chemicals and regularly maintain it more. emphasis on encouraged!! ;)

    let you know how it goes

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    the things we do for parents in law huh!! :o

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2323232D2128282B2B4E0 link=1240057347/16#16 date=1240903087
    the things we do for parents in law huh!! :o
    Got to keep teh Wife HAPPY :D ;)

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    Re: Em6910 problem

    when you clean it also do a descal

    coffee clean at least once a month
    descal at least every 3 months
    sounds like the pump bypass may be dirty

    graham

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6161616F636A6A69690C0 link=1240057347/16#16 date=1240903087
    the things we do for parents in law huh!! :o
    So how did it all go ?

    Quote Originally Posted by 6A65740C0 link=1240057347/18#18 date=1241833230
    when you clean it also do a descal

    coffee clean at least once a month
    descal at *least every 3 months
    sounds like the pump bypass may be dirty

    graham
    I agree... People just do not do enough maintenance..



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