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    Baskets for my new Silvia

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    Hi Snobs,

    I have just "upgraded" 3 days ago to a new V3 Silvia from a EM6910 and need some advice about which baskets to use. I was using a double Synesso ridgeless basket and Pullman deluxe tamper with my Sunbeam which was great but is too big for the Silvia (its huge in comparison and bottoms out in the shallow portafilter)

    I think the Silvias basket is 12g ? I was looking at getting a 12-14g ridgeless double to suit my pullman tamper.

    Otherwise I will sell the tamper and Synesso baskets and just buy a new tamper to suit the ridged basket and persevere.

    Are ridgeless baskets available?

    Advise would be appreciated



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    Re: Baskets for my new Silvia

    You could buy a bottomless portafilter.

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    Re: Baskets for my new Silvia

    Quote Originally Posted by 05383333322524570 link=1266967100/0#0 date=1266967100
    but is too big for the Silvia *
    The double synesso fits the 2008 Silvia handle, Id be double checking its fit without the spring just to make sure, then Id go bottomless before Id sell my pullman :)

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    Re: Baskets for my new Silvia

    Quote Originally Posted by 222E272724241E2C342C410 link=1266967100/2#2 date=1266981284
    Quote Originally Posted by 05383333322524570 link=1266967100/0#0 date=1266967100
    but is too big for the Silvia *
    The double synesso fits the 2008 Silvia handle, Id be double checking its fit without the spring just to make sure, then Id go bottomless before Id sell my pullman :)
    My mistake, I measured it and the basket has about 2mm clearance from the edges, increasing to the centre. I just thought it didnt fit because it looks huge in the shallow portafilter compared to the em6910 portafilter.

    Will 2mm clearance on the edges be a problem with all that lovely crema backing up?

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    Re: Baskets for my new Silvia

    Clearance between the basket and the portafilter doesnt matter. The 6910 pf is big but the Synesso basket doesnt use all that depth which is why it still fits fine in the shallower Silvia unit.

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    Re: Baskets for my new Silvia

    I tested out the Synesso basket and it seems fine. It is great to use the Pullman tamper again, just got to get used to the lower tamp level compared to the EM6910.

    The other issue I now have is that the Silvia spring doesnt have enough tension to hold the Synesso basket even after bending. The Synesso spring is too thick to allow the basket to fit in the PF. I have attached an image to show the spring in place. Still after bending into a circle the basket is way too tight to fit.





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    Re: Baskets for my new Silvia

    Quote Originally Posted by 734E4545445352210 link=1266967100/5#5 date=1267092703
    The Synesso spring is too thick to allow the basket to fit in the PF. I have attached an image to show the spring in place. Still after bending into a circle the basket is way too tight to fit. *
    I think you mean the Sunbeam spring there Rodders? :-? The Synesso spring fits fine into the Silvia PF, being only about 0.5mm thicker, but the Sunbeam one is significantly thicker. Its unlikely you would have purchased a Synesso spring if you were putting a Synesso basket into a Sunbeam portafilter as we only recommend a spring if your original baskets were ridged, which yours werent.

    The Synesso spring is available from http://www.coffeetamper.com.au/shop/product_info.php?products_id=54. Your other option would be to bend the original Silvias spring outwards and you may be able to get enough extra tension on that to hold the basket in. Being a fundamentally thinner spring though Im not sure how well that will work, and for how long, but no harm in trying.

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    Re: Baskets for my new Silvia

    Quote Originally Posted by 5144535146435A5A5B5758360 link=1266967100/6#6 date=1267164444
    I think you mean the Sunbeam spring there Rodders?
    My mistake, I did have one of your springs but must of left it in the 6910 portafilter and kept the Sunbeam one *:-[ . Anyway I will have to order one from you as the Silvias spring doesnt hold the basket. Thanks for the advice.

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    Re: Baskets for my new Silvia

    All good Rodders as I think u found the synesso baskets and springs will fit ur Silvia they work an absolute treat in mine!!! One of the best simply improvements ever!!

    On a side note how did u find the move from Sunbeam6910 to Silvia?? Did u find a quality in shot difference??

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    Re: Baskets for my new Silvia

    Quote Originally Posted by 7272727C7079797A7A1F0 link=1266967100/8#8 date=1269263986
    All good Rodders as I think u found the synesso baskets and springs will fit ur Silvia they work an absolute treat in mine!!! One of the best simply improvements ever!! *
    I have the Synesso spring from pullman tampers (thankyou) and the basket fits nice and firm.

    The tamper is easier to use on the Silvia, it sits deeper in the basket than the EM6910 and seems to tamp straighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by 7272727C7079797A7A1F0 link=1266967100/8#8 date=1269263986
    On a side note how did u find the move from Sunbeam6910 to Silvia?? Did u find a quality in shot difference?? *
    The shots have been great after a few test runs, the grind and tamp seem critical for a good pour, the Silvia doesnt choke like the EM6910 did sometimes. The shots seem to blond quicker on the Silvia.

    The next upgrade would be my grinder. Would i benefit much with a Rocky? the Sunbeam EM0480 seems inconsistent, or maybe thats me?

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    Re: Baskets for my new Silvia

    i love my rocky, the quality and build on the Rocky is like a small tank ;D.

    I have used a em0480 and its a good unit, but not used with my Silvia. from use elsewhere the Rocky is more reliable, consistent in its grind -more accurate and is built to last a long long time.

    is a better grinder by far IMHO

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    Re: Baskets for my new Silvia

    Quote Originally Posted by 112C2727263130430 link=1266967100/9#9 date=1269322295
    The shots seem to blond quicker on the Silvia.
    This could be down to the quality of beans being used, dose and/or grind setting.... If youre satisfied that the beans are up to scratch, maybe see if a fellow CSer lives close to where you live (or wouldnt mind the scenic drive) to see if you can test out the same beans in a different grinder, such as a Rocky, K3, etc...

    Its a good way to identify the source of the problem(s) straight up..... 8-)

    Mal.

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    Re: Baskets for my new Silvia

    Quote Originally Posted by 7575757B777E7E7D7D180 link=1266967100/10#10 date=1269344243
    more accurate and is built to last a long long time
    Thats what I am after, quality and longevity, the main reason for the upgrade to the Silvia. Looks like I will have to start saving....

    Quote Originally Posted by 5C71757974180 link=1266967100/11#11 date=1269344878
    This could be down to the quality of beans being used, dose and/or grind setting.... *
    I get my beans from a "local" 25km away roaster. The beans are fresh, roasted weekly but I must admit I cannot compare apples with apples as our favourite is not roasted at the moment and I have been grinding a different blend since getting the new machine.

    Maybe I will get the Rocky from the same sponsor (jetblack) and do a Barista course using my Silvia and Rocky.


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    Re: Baskets for my new Silvia

    Quote Originally Posted by 18252E2E2F38394A0 link=1266967100/12#12 date=1269420776
    Maybe I will get the Rocky from the same sponsor (jetblack) and do a Barista course using my Silvia and Rocky.
    Excellent idea mate..... It cant be stressed enough how valuable it is, to complete a decent home barista course. Money very well spent in my view and the Rocky will do the job for you as long as you have an interest in excellent coffee.... 8-)

    Cheers,
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    Re: Baskets for my new Silvia

    I had a great experience with a La Marzocco double basket for my silvia. Made rich double ristretto shots all the time :)

    I even preferred using that basket with my naked portafilter than the triple synesso basket that came with that portafilter. Better balance yet rich shots. Either way beat the standard double basket of the silvia.



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