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    Sunbeam 6910 – Secret method to the perfect tiger shot?

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    I’ve spent a lot of hours trying – like all of us – *to pull the perfect shot.

    But things started to really heat up in our house when I noticed that the Sunbeam’s third shot of the morning was always the best.

    It also happened to go to Mrs Lionfish! Doh! So I suffer with a dark black shot while Mrs Lionfish gets a lovely tiger pour!

    Confused for a while it dawned on me that Mr Lionfish takes her coffee with milk.

    So this got me thinking….What happens if I steam the hell out of a jug of water before I put my shot through the machine?

    Guess what. *It worked a treat! *I too am now getting lovely tiger stripes for my shot.

    It seems (me postulating) that the process of steaming a jug of water prior to the shot is heating up the machine to a higher point that I can achieve with a shot alone.

    It worked for me…maybe something for other 6910ers to try….

    lionfish


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    Re: Sunbeam 6910 – Secret method to the perfect tiger shot?

    How long do you let the machine heat before the first shot? *Id recommend 30min. You need time to allow the group to heat up (and insert the group handle while its warming so it is also up to temp). If you dont do this a lot of heat from the water will transfer to cold metal resulting in water that is cooler than ideal before it reaches your coffee.

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    Re: Sunbeam 6910 – Secret method to the perfect tiger shot?

    Can you raise the brew temp? or is it max?

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    Re: Sunbeam 6910 – Secret method to the perfect tiger shot?

    Curious the 6910 is a twin thermoblock so my understanding of it is Steam is independent of brew heat? So unless the second thermoblock is attached in some way to the head then there shouldnt be much heat transfer.

    More likely a lack of warm up time so by the third shots your machine is properly warmed up. Not sure if you realise or not but it is not just the water that need to be heated but the entire head and portafilter assembly as well.

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    Re: Sunbeam 6910 – Secret method to the perfect tiger shot?

    Quote Originally Posted by 5B5C58575F554050575E390 link=1273229714/3#3 date=1273231732
    More likely a lack of warm up time so by the third shots your machine is properly warmed up.
    I agree.

    Just because it thinks its ready in a few minutes from cold doesnt mean it really is.

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    Re: Sunbeam 6910 – Secret method to the perfect tiger shot?

    I used to allow Silvia 45 mins to warm up because she needed it.

    With my EM6910 I wait about 10 mins - not having a brass boiler doesnt take as long.

    BUT.... before I load the filled portafilter I hit the brew button and allow 6-7 seconds of hot water to run through the group head, then I load immediately and brew.

    I read somewhere that the temp stabilizes at around the 6-7 second mark, so this method gives an even temp for the whole brew time.

    I get tiger stripes every time :D

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    Re: Sunbeam 6910 – Secret method to the perfect tiger shot?

    I typically turn my machine on, loosely fit the portafilter, have a shower (10ish mins), pour about 80ml of water (half cup) through the grouphead and portafilter into a cup (to warm the cup up)...before starting my coffee making ritual (grind dose level tamp pull).

    Never had any temperature stability problems.

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    Re: Sunbeam 6910 – Secret method to the perfect tiger shot?

    I usually turn my machine on as soon as I get into work and come back to it in about 5-10 depending on what Im doing and how desperate I am for a coffee ;)

    Cant wait to get my grinder Ill probably be in on the weekend playing with it *:D

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    Re: Sunbeam 6910 – Secret method to the perfect tiger shot?

    good advice! I pour my first shot as soon as the lights stop flashing !

    I do heat up everything though....tomorrow morning i will give it at least 10 mins and see if it makes a difference...

    I mentioned in another thread that I dont get any infusion time....not sure if its related.

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    Re: Sunbeam 6910 – Secret method to the perfect tiger shot?

    Quote Originally Posted by 766D6C7B3A32303A020 link=1273229714/8#8 date=1273408025
    i will give it at least 10 mins and see if it makes a difference...
    Give it 30 and see.

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    Re: Sunbeam 6910 – Secret method to the perfect tiger shot?

    Quote Originally Posted by 7B475A414B4A5D48404B2F0 link=1273229714/9#9 date=1273415307
    Give it 30 and see.
    After that long the machine turns itself off and it needs restarting anyway?

    The lights flash etc.....I guess its still hot and thats all that matters?

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    Re: Sunbeam 6910 – Secret method to the perfect tiger shot?

    well technically it goes into standby after 30min... suppose 29.9 min is fine :p

    or just run some steam or something in that time to get another 30 min.

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    Re: Sunbeam 6910 – Secret method to the perfect tiger shot?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3B242C3F323733335E0 link=1273229714/6#6 date=1273300237
    I typically turn my machine on, loosely fit the portafilter, have a shower (10ish mins), pour about 80ml of water (half cup) through the grouphead and portafilter into a cup (to warm the cup up)...before starting my coffee making ritual (grind dose level tamp pull).
    Yep, thatd be how I drive this machine too.

    With single boiler or themoblock machines, you can speed up the process by pulling 1 or 2 steam shots with the PF locked in but more sophisticated machines dont give you this option (called steam cheating). A Gaggia can be brought from dead cold to full heat in under 4 minutes this way.

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    Re: Sunbeam 6910 – Secret method to the perfect tiger shot?

    Quote Originally Posted by 48575F4C414440402D0 link=1273229714/11#11 date=1273451133
    well technically it goes into standby after 30min... suppose 29.9 min is fine :p

    Im pretty sure its goes on standby mode after an hour. ::)

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    Re: Sunbeam 6910 – Secret method to the perfect tiger shot?

    Quote Originally Posted by 7F706B677F7A7F681E0 link=1273229714/13#13 date=1273452918
    Quote Originally Posted by 48575F4C414440402D0 link=1273229714/11#11 date=1273451133
    well technically it goes into standby after 30min... suppose 29.9 min is fine :p

    Im pretty sure its goes on standby mode after an hour. ::)
    The unit shall go to sleep mode if the unit has not used for 1 hour period.

    The controlled temperatures are as follows; -
    • 55oC +5oC for coffee thermo block
    • 85oC +5oC for steam thermo block.
    • In sleep mode only the two colours LED for power flashes


    A unit shall completely switch itself OFF after continuous 26 hours in sleep
    mode.



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