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    Recommendation for newbie!

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    Hi guys,

    Im a completely newbie at all this coffee stuff, but Im looking to spend $1000-$1200 on a machine + related equipment like grinders etc.

    Can someone recommend something to me? Ive been looking through the forum and the number of popular machines out there have made me completely confused :(

    Thanks!

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    Re: Recommendation for newbie!

    Hi and welcome to CS mate.

    Here are a few options I would recommend from cheapest to most expensive:

    1. Combi machine i.e. built-in grinder. Ive used one of these myself and they are an awesome starting point. With freshly roasted beans and good technique youll be making coffee better than most cafes.
    http://www.jetblackespresso.com.au/shop/ac/single-boiler-coffee-machines/p/lelit-combi-pl042e/

    2. Probably the most popular machine and grinder combination out there and not without good reason. A considerable jump in price to option 1 but better quality and a 58mm group handle on the machine which will make it easier to find spares & accessories. Fantastic resale value and bargain price.
    http://www.jetblackespresso.com.au/shop/ac/coffee-machine-grinder-packages/p/rancilio-silvia-rocky-package/

    3.This coffee machine is the same as option 1 but without the built in grinder. The K3 grinder is a big step up from the built in grinder and I know this from personal experience. I had one of the combi machines then bought a K3 grinder and noticed a huge difference the quality of coffee. Not that I was unhappy with the quality before that. You could probably also get a package deal with the Rocky grinder which would make it more affordable. The K3 is a better grinder than the Rocky.
    http://www.jetblackespresso.com.au/shop/ac/coffee-machine-grinder-packages/p/lelit-pl041-compak-k3-package/

    4. This is a new player on the market and from reports a very good machine. It has a PID which is a device that allows you to control temperature very precisely (something which is more difficult on the above machines). It also gives you better steam for milk drinks. You can add an after market PID to the above machines although this would work out cheaper. By the time you add a quality grinder and other accessories you will be well over your budget but it could be worth it.
    http://www.talkcoffee.com.au/equipment/coffee-machine-gee-espresso-machine.php

    The best advice I can give is to visit one or more of our fine sponsors. See the list to the left of the page to find one near you. In your budget allow for a good quality tamper.

    When visiting your local sponosr you should also ask them about water quality. They should be able to recommend what level of filtration you require if using tap water and this will also need to be budgeted for.

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    Re: Recommendation for newbie!

    Thanks for those recommendations! I was actually more after something that I can pick up from shops like Harvey Norman or something like a Breville...but I dont mind going for something that you guys recommend. :)

    The Rancilio Silvia seems like a good choice at the moment, but I cant seem to find any local sponsors like you mentioned. They all seem to be in NSW.

    Can anyone recommend me a shop that sells the Silvia within Melbourne (Northern suburbs)?

    Thanks!

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    Re: Recommendation for newbie!

    Contact Chris from Talk Coffee in Northcote. I believe you need to make an appointment. I bought my machine from him even though Im in Adelaide.

    Chris is a huge contributor to this site and a wealth of information.

    As for getting something from one of the big retailers, they tend to sell appliances, not espresso machines ;) More importantly, youre unlikely to deal with someone who knows a lot about espresso machines but rather someone who just wants a sale.

    Going to one of our fine sponsors like Talk Coffee means youll get expert advice from someone who has lived and breathed coffee for years! Youre also going to be dealing with someone who will give you great after sales support. When you Sunbeam breaks down good luck getting it back in less than 4 weeks!

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    Re: Recommendation for newbie!

    Welcome Xpire...

    You will most likely find that an appliance machine will die within a few years and may be associated big repair costs as well. More likely than not, you will blow your dough on decidedly average coffee as well. You have a better chance of a positive experience if you take your cash to a casino and put it all on black! ;D

    Dont try to buy a TV from a CS sponsor and dont ask Hardly Normal to sell you an espresso machine as both parties will be well away from their area of expertise ;)

    Good luck...

    Chris



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