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    Some Noob questions regarding my Sunbeam 6910

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    Hey guys,

    I love the forum, and I love coffee so I bit the bullet and decided to buy an EM6910 and I have a grinder ordered as well.

    Just some questions need answering if you guys wouldnt mind? I used the search function but alot of my questions didnt come up.

    1. With the single / double baskets - will the machine put enough water through to actually make a 12 oz cup of coffee? Or is it expected that the 1 / 2 cup buttons are only enough to make espressos? Do I have to hold down the manual button to get more water out for a full cup?

    2. The metered water for the 1 / 2 cup buttons - does this assume you will also have to add the heated milk to the coffee?

    3. I see "back flushing" is talked about a bit. Do I need to add any cleaning agent to the system to help it clean better? Any tips on doing this properly?

    4. What can I use to clean the group handle? Is hot water enough?

    5. I have read that the group head rubber seal needs replacing every year or so. Are these easy to change and buy? Reason being is that my machine is second hand so I may need to replace it sometime soon.

    6. If I am only making 1 coffee, do I still need quite a bit of milk in the jug for it to be textured properly? Can I retexure milk again after it has already be textured? (As in texture it, put it in the fridge and take it out later for another cup of coffee)

    Thanks in advance guys. :)

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    Re: Some Noob questions regarding my Sunbeam 6910

    funny enough m dad has one of these and loves it

    to answer your questions / help with an opinion

    1. Start with the double basket for 1 coffee, myself and dad find its easier to get good results with a double.

    If youre making a long black, add hot water to the cup first, then extract your double shot over the water, if you just do a long shot youll get a bitter coffee

    2. Not so sure about this one as I only ever make a long black using the above method on dads machine when im up home. If youre concerned about the amount of coffee youll get in your cup then im pretty sure they would be trying for a normal shot dose, so should be plenty of room for your milk

    3. The book for your machine should have info about backflushing if it needs it, read the book over a few times first so you know the process as it can cause damage if done incorrectly

    4. When I clean my group handle / portafilter I just use hot water and scrub the group head with my group brush. I clean the machine with machine cleaner about once a month

    5. When I owned my older sunbeam the seal was very simple to replace. I think dad has replaced his once and found it very simple

    6. You should be fine with enough milk for as many coffees as youre making, you shouldnt retexture your milk as the chemical makeup of it changes once heated. Heat the milk once and use it once

    And moreso after all this formality, enjoy your journey and welcome to coffeesnobs :D

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    Re: Some Noob questions regarding my Sunbeam 6910

    Quote Originally Posted by 44686565667E62606D090 link=1304853148/0#0 date=1304853147
    1. With the single / double baskets - will the machine put enough water through to actually make a 12 oz cup of coffee? Or is it expected that the 1 / 2 cup buttons are only enough to make espressos? Do I have to hold down the manual button to get more water out for a full cup?
    The machine will put out 30ml for the single and 60ml for the double. These are espresso shots. The machine cannot sense what size cup you have underneath the spouts.

    Quote Originally Posted by 44686565667E62606D090 link=1304853148/0#0 date=1304853147
    2. The metered water for the 1 / 2 cup buttons - does this assume you will also have to add the heated milk to the coffee?
    Again, it gives 30ml and 60ml respectively. You can add however much/little milk or water you prefer.

    Quote Originally Posted by 44686565667E62606D090 link=1304853148/0#0 date=1304853147
    3. I see "back flushing" is talked about a bit. Do I need to add any cleaning agent to the system to help it clean better? Any tips on doing this properly?
    About once a week, I put through Cafetto Machine Cleaner during the backflush cycle.

    Quote Originally Posted by 44686565667E62606D090 link=1304853148/0#0 date=1304853147
    4. What can I use to clean the group handle? Is hot water enough?
    When I do my chemical clean, I will often soak the group handle in a hot water and chemical cleaner solution.

    Quote Originally Posted by 44686565667E62606D090 link=1304853148/0#0 date=1304853147
    5. I have read that the group head rubber seal needs replacing every year or so. Are these easy to change and buy? Reason being is that my machine is second hand so I may need to replace it sometime soon.

    Quite simple to replace, shouldnt be too costly either. Havent needed to replace mine yet, so cant help you out with the details unfortunately.

    Quote Originally Posted by 44686565667E62606D090 link=1304853148/0#0 date=1304853147
    6. If I am only making 1 coffee, do I still need quite a bit of milk in the jug for it to be textured properly? Can I retexure milk again after it has already be textured? (As in texture it, put it in the fridge and take it out later for another cup of coffee)

    Generally speaking, you will need to pour enough milk to reach just under the spout which is approximately 250 - 300ml.
    If that volume is too much, search for a smaller milk texturing jug, I currently use a 400ml one and its great for 1 cup.
    Do not heat, and cool your milk again, its also a food safety hazard.

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    Re: Some Noob questions regarding my Sunbeam 6910


    I used to re-texture my milk, in part from only having a 600ml jug, and cause I did not like wastage, but there is a better way...

    Buy some more milk jugs, I recently found both 400ml and 300ml jugs at my latest roasters, and dirt cheap, with the right size its easier to texture the milk volume you need.

    Oh and 400ml is probably a tall latte glass, a regular coffee cup for me seems to be the 300ml with like zero wastetage.

    Be warned though, smaller you go the faster your working, Im still getting the hang of the 300ml, but its worth it.

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    Re: Some Noob questions regarding my Sunbeam 6910

    Quote Originally Posted by 527E7373706874767B1F0 link=1304853148/0#0 date=1304853147
    5. I have read that the group head rubber seal needs replacing every year or so. Are these easy to change and buy? Reason being is that my machine is second hand so I may need to replace it sometime soon.
    Very simple to replace - costs about $20 to buy (can find them cheaper if you look around) and takes about 5 mins including a clean of the shower screens while youve got them off.

    Have fun! :) (PS, if you havent done so, read the manual and watch the DVD that comes with the machine - they will help a lot and avoid many issues). Most importantly, make sure you clean and descale regularly (check the manual for the min frequency).

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    Re: Some Noob questions regarding my Sunbeam 6910

    Thanks ever so much for all the helpful replies guys.

    I bought the machine second hand so it didnt come with a DVD or manual Pete, but I have now downloaded a manual from the Sunbeam site.

    So anyway, I made my first coffee today, very happy with the result. Texturing my milk may take a little getting used to - I followed the instructions etc. got the swirl and screech going but the milk didnt seem to want to fluff up. I have heard that the cheap Coles milk has trouble getting good texture though? Not sure how true that is though.

    Once again anyway - thanks for the helpful advice and the warm welcome.* :)

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    Re: Some Noob questions regarding my Sunbeam 6910


    Where are you?, here in Brisbane I know the Coles was just not bulking up for me anymore, the Dairy Farmers I switched to has been fine, though you still got to work at it.

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    Re: Some Noob questions regarding my Sunbeam 6910

    Yea, Im in Brisbane, may have a play around with some different milk types too.

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    I have just had hassles getting decent milk after getting my em6910 back from warranty repairs and finally replaced with the a new machine (which I still had trouble with!). Was not getting the nice foam I was used to, just bubbles on top. Fixed it by complete descale (thru steam wand as well, done outside at highest pump rate and lowest temp) using triple cleaner (yes, on a brand new machine this made a difference!!). I am now getting great foam using both pump rate and temp on highest settings. The best settings may be different for your machine, you just need to experiment. Also, I think it helps to start with a smaller jug (the one that comes with the machine is good). Fill it to just under the bottom of the spout (ie, about half way up the hight of the jug).

    Meant to say at start, I use low fat woolies or coles milk (although am buying branded milk every second bottle now as Im worried about the farmers* :() and havent noticed any difference between any of these. Hope all this helps - getting the milk right can take a while, but once youve got it, it seems piss easy! Good luck. If youre in Toowoomba, Id be happy to give you the DVD if you want it, just PM me.


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    Re: Some Noob questions regarding my Sunbeam 6910

    Quote Originally Posted by 05302130666C550 link=1304853148/8#8 date=1304940729
    highest pump rate and lowest temp

    I think I mentioned lowest pump rate a while back?
    Lowest pump rate should give the wettest steam

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    Yeah, sorry bout that one - long day! Thanks J :-[

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    Re: Some Noob questions regarding my Sunbeam 6910

    Quote Originally Posted by 7E4B5A4B1D172E0 link=1304853148/8#8 date=1304940729
    Fixed it by complete descale (thru steam wand as well, done outside at highest pump rate and lowest temp) using triple cleaner (yes, on a brand new machine this made a difference!!).
    Sorry to be a noob but what a triple cleaner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 23262C616D65540 link=1304853148/11#11 date=1308488738
    Sorry to be a noob but what a triple cleaner?
    Look for Bombora Triple Action Cleaner, you can find a sponsor link along the left.

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    Re: Some Noob questions regarding my Sunbeam 6910

    Quote Originally Posted by 656E767C6061636A60780F0 link=1304853148/12#12 date=1308489752
    Quote Originally Posted by 23262C616D65540 link=1304853148/11#11 date=1308488738
    Sorry to be a noob but what a triple cleaner?
    Look for Bombora Triple Action Cleaner, you can find a sponsor link along the left.
    is this the same thing? Im in Melb & at least I can walk in & buy it, use it when I get home.

    http://www.coffee-a-roma.com.au/shop/en/cleaning-products-6/triple-action-cleaner-102.html

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    Re: Some Noob questions regarding my Sunbeam 6910

    That should do it, give them a call first as they arent in the shop everyday but for the life of me I cant remember their hours.

    Found them
    Showroom/Shop Hours of Opening
    Wednesday - Saturday: 10am - 5pm
    Sunday - Tuesday: By appointment

    Still worth calling as I have seen them there outside those hours (I work just up the road a bit and around the corner)



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