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    Saeco or De Longhi? Advice sought!

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    Our Saeco Incanto has entered premature death after innumerable trips to the service centre... We are now thinking about our next investment, looking for a fully automatic machine that on any given day makes at least 3-4 coffees and froths milk. Our budget is around $1200.

    An expert coffee repairer suggested the Nespresso of the Clooney kind or alternatively raved about the De Longhi ESAM5450 which is currently on sale at Bing Lee for $988. My husband is hesitant to move away from Saeco but given all the issues we had with our last model Im wondering if its time to try something new.

    Your expertise, experience and advice is welcome and much appreciated! Its a big decision (and expense) and one I dont want to make lightly...

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    Re: Saeco or De Longhi? Advice sought!

    This is the coffee snobs forum petitluxe. Those of us here generally dont like fully auto or pod machines.

    You will probably be better placed to find more information on fully auto machines on product review.

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    Re: Saeco or De Longhi? Advice sought!

    Quote Originally Posted by 60756479647C656875100 link=1305200736/0#0 date=1305200736
    My husband is hesitant to move away from Saeco but given all the issues we had with our last model Im wondering if its time to try something new.
    Fully automatic at $1000 is the problem...not the brand. The Primadonna is terrible too reliability wise (and the one you linked to I believe is one step below).

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    Re: Saeco or De Longhi? Advice sought!

    Quote Originally Posted by 19323F3733292E28236B68696E5A0 link=1305200736/1#1 date=1305200974
    This is the coffee snobs forum petitluxe. Those of us here generally dont like fully auto or pod machines.

    Thanks Chemistry. We like to think of ourselves as afficianados of the cafe au lait variety so if machine & grinder is the most optimum way of achieving a great cup of coffee we are easily swayed! although very inexperienced on the topic... a quick scan showed gaggia may be the best option if we are to go down that road?

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    Re: Saeco or De Longhi? Advice sought!

    As Chemistry mentioned, most of what is discussed here revolves around more manual brewing methods. Thats not to say there arent those knowledgeable about super automatics. Unfortunately Im not one of them.

    I would avoid pod machines. You will end up paying much more per cup, the coffee in them is stale and I have heard they are generally quite weak.

    I understand that reliability is often a problem with superautomatic machines and have heard that Jura are the best of a bad lot.

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    Re: Saeco or De Longhi? Advice sought!

    Quote Originally Posted by 7E6B7A677A627B766B0E0 link=1305200736/3#3 date=1305202194
    if machine & grinder is the most optimum way of achieving a great cup of coffee we are easily swayed!
    That is encouraging to hear.* If the quality of the coffee is what matters most to you and you dont mind putting a little effort into your method then you should definitely consider moving to an espresso machine + grinder.

    On the other hand, if you are someone who just wants to push a button and get a warm cup of something containing caffeine, you may be better sticking to a super auto.

    Where are you located?* I would highly recommend you go to a coffee machine specialist (not a department store or electrical retailer).* There is a list of sponsors on the left of the page, have a scan to find one near you.

    For your budget some recommendations would include:

    Machines
    Lelit PL042 (integrated grinder)
    Lelit PL041
    GEE Espresso
    Rancilio Silvia

    Grinders
    Breville BCG800
    Lelit PL043
    Eureka Mignon
    Ibertal Challenge
    Sunbeam EM0480



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    Re: Saeco or De Longhi? Advice sought!

    Agree on the visit to a sponsor and if you are open to being "swayed" (budget and machine) then there is one to add soon (released next week) so Id suggest that in a week or so there will be an early adopters sponsors special package on the new Breville "900" and the BCG800 grinder that (in my crystal ball ;)) will go for around the rrp of the new machine ($1500).

    By all reports this will blow away all similarly priced manual equipment (and quite a few more expensive).

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    Re: Saeco or De Longhi? Advice sought!

    Whoa! Im so glad I came across this site... Since my first post we have decided to purchase a Rancilio Silva. Now to decide on the grinder, we are tossing up between Breville, Sunbeam or Rancilio Rocky... Any recommendations?

    Also, we are located in Eastern Suburbs Sydney and want to purchase this week, any sponsors better than others? We are looking for best price!

    Thank you!

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    Re: Saeco or De Longhi? Advice sought!

    I must say that I love the sponsors because they tell it like it is!

    You will enjoy the trip to a sponsor, and in the process discover a whole new world of coffee (fun times ahead!)

    Im in Melbourne, so dont know which sponsor to recommend, but wanted to wish you good luck on your coffee journey! Its a whole lot of fun, and certainly moving to a coffee machine rather than dept store appliance is a great first step.

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    Re: Saeco or De Longhi? Advice sought!

    Hello petitluxe.

    Di Bartoli are at Bondi Junction and sell Silvia as well as other machines. Jet Black are on the North side, Coffee Parts are at Pagewood and both sell Silvia.

    We choose not to stock the Silvia though stock other machines and are south of the Airport at Sylvania. We are however, the only Sydney Sponsor to stock the Breville Grinder.

    We would be delighted to assist, and Im sure other Sponsors would too.

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    Re: Saeco or De Longhi? Advice sought!

    Hello petitluxe.

    Di Bartoli are at Bondi Junction and sell Silvia as well as other machines. Jet Black are on the North side, Coffee Parts are at Pagewood and both sell Silvia.

    We choose not to stock the Silvia though stock other machines and are south of the Airport at Sylvania. We are however, the only Sydney Sponsor to stock the Breville Grinder.

    We would be delighted to assist, and Im sure other Sponsors would too.

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    Re: Saeco or De Longhi? Advice sought!

    vote +1 for the breville grinder in that price range :)

    Glad you found the site, its an awesome community, im new also (From Newcastle) and have learnt sooo much! and the best part is I am making coffee much better quality then most cafes seem to give out these days. I had a laugh



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