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    Rancilio Silvia Pricing in Australia

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    I was just looking through some of the site sponsors links to see what a Rancilio Silvia is selling for in Australia. *I noticed two were selling it for $790. *That makes me sick. *In Taiwan, the cheapest Ive seen was an online seller at $21,200NT, but that was just this week. *They are usually around $22,000-24,000NT. *Used Silvias in Taiwan are selling for more than new ones in Australia. *Is it the number of machines that Australian vendors can sell in a given year that give you guys such a good deal? *Do you have a savvy importer who can negotiate good deals? *Or does Taiwan have a very greedy importer and greedy vendors?

    Id like to buy a Silvia, but not so much that Im willing to pay more than what the rest of the world has to.


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    Re: Rancilio Silvia Pricing in Australia

    As i have no idea what 21000NYT is compared to Aussie $$ I cant really help you because I do not know if that is good or bad.

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    Re: Rancilio Silvia Pricing in Australia

    Hi Slow Rain,
    Try STS Coffee in HKG for Miss Silvia. *Do check the voltage though. *Their price will be pretty close to Australias. *If you need help getting it to Taiwan I may be able to help you out.

    Quote Originally Posted by 61786E6463696C0D0 link=1236424437/1#1 date=1236428550
    As i have no idea what 21000NYT is compared to Aussie $$ I cant really help you because I do not know if that is good or bad.
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    Re: Rancilio Silvia Pricing in Australia

    Thanks, Epic76, Ill check into it.

    I left the prices in the original currencies because theyre always changing.

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    Re: Rancilio Silvia Pricing in Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by 320D0E163300080F610 link=1236424438/0#0 date=1236424437
    ....<snip>Id like to buy a Silvia, but not so much that Im willing to pay more than what the rest of the world has to.
    Hi SlowRain and welcome,

    Im sure that pretty much any of the site sponsors (including ourselves) will be happy to arrange shipment of a Silvia to you.

    You will save our 10% gst but keep in mind that you will need to factor in freight as well as any applicable import duties and taxes which may apply.

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    Re: Rancilio Silvia Pricing in Australia

    Thanks, Chris. However, I think Australia uses 220v (240v?); we use 110v in Taiwan. Hong Kong uses 220v also, if Im not mistaken, but I cant remember about China.


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    Re: Rancilio Silvia Pricing in Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by 023D3E260330383F510 link=1236424438/5#5 date=1236479985
    Thanks, Chris. *However, I think Australia uses 220v (240v?); we use 110v in Taiwan. *Hong Kong uses 220v also, if Im not mistaken, but I cant remember about China.
    Perhaps you can then source one out of the US?

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    Ive thought about that, but the shipping kills the deal. Japan is my next best bet, but the Yen has gone up so much that I dont think thats feasible, either. I just have to wait...and search the Internet. Im hoping this economy will force vendors to lower their prices (apologies to the vendors on here who are struggling, but I think from a consumers point of view).

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1D2221391C2F27204E0 link=1236424438/7#7 date=1236480964
    Ive thought about that, but the shipping kills the deal.
    HKG and China certainly are 220V

    Have you considered purchasing it in Canada/USA and either getting friends and family to carry it to you when they visit or ship it to you? You just cant beat the prices of Nth America. Economies of scale and all.



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    (Ive put approximate exchange rates in here. *Theyre only good for today and will change as time goes on time.)

    Right now, its on sale in the US for 594 USD, but thats still 940 AUD.

    How can the Australians sell it for 790 AUD? *Is it because its still holdover inventory from when AUD was high last year? *I dont understand, because CAD was high last year, too, yet the Silvia is selling for 711 CAD, which is 860 AUD. *Maybe its just that the Australians wont overpay for anything, so Rancilio has to price it at what the Australian market will bear.

    My hats off to the Australians. *I just wish you could order 110v machines...or that Taiwan had standard 220v electricity. *I hope you guys enjoy your pricing and dont take it for granted.


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    Re: Rancilio Silvia Pricing in Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by 625D5E466350585F310 link=1236424438/9#9 date=1236604386
    I hope you guys enjoy your pricing and dont take it for granted.
    I think prices here are always too high because of low sales volumes and high transport costs.

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    Re: Rancilio Silvia Pricing in Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by 5A667B606A6B7C69616A0E0 link=1236424438/10#10 date=1236641430
    Quote Originally Posted by 625D5E466350585F310 link=1236424438/9#9 date=1236604386
    I hope you guys enjoy your pricing and dont take it for granted.
    I think prices here are always too high because of low sales volumes and high transport costs.
    Maybe Rancilio makes more 240V models for the European maket than the 110V for the USA maket, making it cheaper to make?

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    Re: Rancilio Silvia Pricing in Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by 5053414145534B320 link=1236424438/11#11 date=1236642984
    Maybe Rancilio makes more 240V models for the European maket than the 110V for the USA maket, making it cheaper to make?
    Yep, that is probably a factor..... which is the reverse of the Hottop pricing where high volume sales in the US means a much lower wholesale price for the 110V model..... and we have to pay a premium for the 240V model as it is made (and sold) in smaller numbers..... :( :( :(

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    Okay, possibly, but Im not completely convinced. *I checked Hong Kongs pricing, and it was similar to Taiwans--and Hong Kong is 220V.

    I also remember my boss saying how Louis Vuitton hand bags were noticeably cheaper in Australia compared to Taiwan. *That, coupled with my own observations about Taiwanese society--like it as I do--lead me to believe that the Taiwanese love to overpay for things. *Their joy is directly proportional to the price they pay for something, not necessarily the quality of the product they buy.


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    Re: Rancilio Silvia Pricing in Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by 013E3D2500333B3C520 link=1236424438/13#13 date=1236649493
    Taiwanese love to overpay for things.Their joy is directly proportional to the price they pay for something, not necessarily the quality of the product they buy.
    I like that quote :o

    The only solution I can offer is that you will need a voltage transformer/ converter for your electrical appliances if they operate on a different voltage.

    But purchasing a convector may in turn increase the cost of the Silvia to the same as you quoted above for Taiwan.

    Second option is to find a good used unit from a fellow coffee lover that is upgrading
    As you may have implied the Taiwanese like bright shiny objects :D

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    Re: Rancilio Silvia Pricing in Australia

    Hi Slowrain;

    I think because espresso machines are been for a longer period of time in Australia, we stop paying premium price long time ago. As well as, the quantities, Australia is probably one of the biggest customer for the Italians in espresso machines.

    I think what is, Taiwan , China, Korea and Japan people pay the higher price only because is novelty item. I used to work in China for an Italian/Australian Coffee Company and I can tell you we used to sell coffee and espresso machines at double that I can sell it here.

    In my opinion if you are looking to go back to Canada in the next two years, buy 110v and a transformer, will be easy to service once you are back home.

    Any way good luck, anything we can help you let us know.

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    Re: Rancilio Silvia Pricing in Australia

    Thanks for the suggestions.

    Ive heard that voltage converters are not recommended for espresso machines in particular--something to do with inadequate juice for the boiler. *Im not sure if thats correct though. *(Is it a voltage issue or frequency issue? *I really dont know.)

    Di Bartoli: Im not sure if you were referring to going back to Canada to visit or stay within the next two years, but Taiwan will most likely (90% certain) be my home for the next 10 years or so, and probably for the next 20 years. *However, prices in Canada--and the US for that matter--still arent as low as the 790 AUD Ive seen on two websites from Australian vendors. *However, I agree on the premium-for-a-novelty pricing that you mentioned.

    Thanks all of you for your suggestions. *I think my little rant has run its course. *But it doesnt get an espresso machine on my counter at a decent price (as Ive said, second-hand machines in Taiwan sell for more than new ones in Australia). *Im not in any particular hurry. *I can wait--or just not buy one. *I only figured (hoped?) this economy would motivate people to think creatively regarding sales, or at least rethink their own pricing.



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