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    EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

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    Hi all,
    Recently my Sunbeam EM6910 (nearly 2 years old) developed this habit of after the warm up period instead of a solid red light above the power button it keeps flashing (red). The machine still functions as normal.
    I have cleaned the machine using the Sunbeam products, (I clean it on a regular basis and use filtered water). I have done factory resets, occaisionally the factory reset makes it behave normally but for one use only. Cannot find any referance to this in the instruction manual and I was wondering if any one else has experienced this.

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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    Is it just in sleep mode?

    Sleep Mode
    After 1 hour of non-use the espresso machine will automatically switch to ‘SLEEP MODE’. An indication that the machine is in ‘SLEEP MODE’ is the lightabove the ‘POWER’ button will slowly flash red.

    Maybe its going to bed too early *:)

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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    Thanks for your reply.

    In sleep mode the red light flashes slowly, mine however is flashing quite quickly and the green lights are all as normal.As I said before the machine is still functioning as normal just the red ligt continues to flash.

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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    Quote Originally Posted by 496E686F621B0 link=1251251711/1#1 date=1251331700
    Is it just in sleep mode?

    Sleep Mode
    After 1 hour of * * *non-use the espresso machine will automatically * * *switch to * * *‘SLEEP MODE’. * * * An indication that the machine is in ‘SLEEP MODE’ is the lightabove the ‘POWER’ * * *button will slowly flash red. * * *

    Maybe its going to bed too early *:)

    Hey Rusty,

    In sleep mode the light above the power button slowly flashes green, not red, while all other lights are off.

    This appears a little different to sjns problem, which I must admit is one I have never seen before.

    Its like it is permanebtly sitting in one of the programming modes rather than reverting to normal after 5 seconds......wierd.

    Need AM to the rescue here me thinks....

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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    Quote Originally Posted by 797169637E1A0 link=1251251711/3#3 date=1251342318
    In sleep mode the light above the power button slowly flashes green, not red, while all other lights are off.
    Page 24 of the manual says it flashes RED ;)

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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    Quote Originally Posted by 082F292E235A0 link=1251251711/4#4 date=1251342800

    Page 24 of the manual says it flashes RED *;)

    Yeah, just pulled the manual out and it does say that :-?

    Mine flashes green - in fact is doing so as we speak :-/

    What colour does yours flash?

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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red


    Quote Originally Posted by 4B435B514C280 link=1251251711/5#5 date=1251343386
    What colour does yours flash?
    Oh you are awful ::)

    I just turned it on so Ill let you know in an hour :)

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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    Quote Originally Posted by 4D6A6C6B661F0 link=1251251711/6#6 date=1251343856
    Quote Originally Posted by 4B435B514C280 link=1251251711/5#5 date=1251343386
    What colour does yours flash?
    Oh you are awful ::)

    I just turned it on so Ill let you know in an hour *:)
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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    sjn,

    I would call sunbeam and ask them. The electronics probably use various flashes as error codes and only sunbeam are going to know what they mean.

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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    Quote Originally Posted by 416660676A130 link=1251251711/6#6 date=1251343856
    I just turned it on so Ill let you know in an hour :)
    Well there ya go, mines green also *:)

    Maybe the editor of the manual is colour blind *:D

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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    Quote Originally Posted by 604741464B320 link=1251251711/9#9 date=1251348905
    Quote Originally Posted by 416660676A130 link=1251251711/6#6 date=1251343856
    I just turned it on so Ill let you know in an hour *:)
    Well there ya go, mines green also *:)

    Maybe the editor of the manual is colour blind *:D
    Classic ;D

    Maybe the originals flashed red or something...

    Quote Originally Posted by 53515D55555B5C41320 link=1251251711/8#8 date=1251345380
    sjn,

    I would call sunbeam and ask them. The electronics probably use various flashes as error codes and only sunbeam are going to know what they mean.
    Good call ACog, I think you may well be right. Shame they dont publish them so that people like sjn can get a handle on what is going on :(



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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    +1 to ACogs advice - call Sunbeam, or your local service agent if youre on good terms. Probably a diagnostic code of some sort... or aliens trying to make first contact. Do the flashes spell out anything in morse code? ;)

    <thread hijack>
    This reminds me of a quick question Ive been meaning to ask those who have had the Sunbeam in pieces... would it be easy for someone handy with a soldering iron to remove the LEDs... to swap them for blue ones for example?
    </thread hijack>

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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    Quote Originally Posted by 507D3D0 link=1251251711/11#11 date=1251352240
    +1 to ACogs advice - call Sunbeam, or your local service agent if youre on good terms. Probably a diagnostic code of some sort... or aliens trying to make first contact. Do the flashes spell out anything in morse code? ;)

    <thread hijack>
    This reminds me of a quick question Ive been meaning to ask those who have had the Sunbeam in pieces... would it be easy for someone handy with a soldering iron to remove the LEDs... to swap them for blue ones for example?
    </thread hijack>
    A led strip if I remember ??? Send me a PM and when I get back, I will have a look on the weekend..

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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    Thanks to all for your input. I will call Sunbeam on Monday and report back here the result.

    sjn

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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    I have developed the same problem over the weekend, but not getting hot water, runs through cold, look forward to hearing the response you get.

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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    Well,I rang sunbeam and described the problem. It was something the call centre guy had never heard of, he put me on hold for less than a minute to check with a tech and the best guess answer is a fault in a pcb. Sugested that *if the machine still functions OK and due to the fact that it is out of warranty I just continue to use it as normal.

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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red


    You could be lucky - maybe the fault wont develop any further.

    Heres hoping its only an annoyance and the machine continues to work for you 8-)

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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    If not, I place dibs on the group handle. ;D

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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    Quote Originally Posted by 4B49454D4D4344592A0 link=1251251711/17#17 date=1251699712
    If not, I place dibs on the group handle. ;D
    You already have a naked PF?
    You need another one? :D

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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    Quote Originally Posted by 22050E3F33600 link=1251251711/18#18 date=1251700440
    Quote Originally Posted by 4B49454D4D4344592A0 link=1251251711/17#17 date=1251699712
    If not, I place dibs on the group handle. ;D
    You already have a naked PF?
    You need another one? :D
    I will take the dead system :-)

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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    Quote Originally Posted by 6A454C4E59664A454A4C4E464E455F2B0 link=1251251711/19#19 date=1251701328
    Quote Originally Posted by 22050E3F33600 link=1251251711/18#18 date=1251700440
    Quote Originally Posted by 4B49454D4D4344592A0 link=1251251711/17#17 date=1251699712
    If not, I place dibs on the group handle. ;D
    You already have a naked group handle?
    You need another one? :D
    I will take the dead system :-)
    You have 20 of those already dont you??? ;)

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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    Look out, sjn - the vultures are circling! ;D

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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    Quote Originally Posted by 1B3C37060A590 link=1251251711/20#20 date=1251701659
    Quote Originally Posted by 6A454C4E59664A454A4C4E464E455F2B0 link=1251251711/19#19 date=1251701328
    Quote Originally Posted by 22050E3F33600 link=1251251711/18#18 date=1251700440
    Quote Originally Posted by 4B49454D4D4344592A0 link=1251251711/17#17 date=1251699712
    If not, I place dibs on the group handle. ;D
    You already have a naked group handle?
    You need another one? :D
    I will take the dead system :-)
    You have 20 of those already dont you??? ;)
    Na only half a one at the moment.. The others bits have been sent off to others in need..

    Problem, is that many come.. get assistance / parts and then ya never hear from them again..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5D727B796E517D727D7B79717972681C0 link=1251251711/22#22 date=1251703595
    Problem, is that many come.. get assistance / parts and then ya never hear from them again..
    I admire your dedication to helping others despite that fact that many are takers and not givers. :(




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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    Quote Originally Posted by 795E585F522B0 link=1251251711/23#23 date=1251753952
    Quote Originally Posted by 5D727B796E517D727D7B79717972681C0 link=1251251711/22#22 date=1251703595
    Problem, is that many come.. get assistance / parts and then ya never hear from them again.. *
    I admire your dedication to helping others despite that fact that many are takers and not givers. *:(



    Thanks... I dont think they intend to be, but life and priorities are such that once a problem is sorted... Many move on to other things...

    Those with a true passion / desire to understand more... Tend to hang around and or re visit and it is great when you see them offer assistance...

    Such is society..

    Lets see what happens with SJNs situation... My concern would be with a fault that could lead to a fire or dangerous situation..

    I Would not leave on for extended periods of time... Would have on when using and then turn it off at teh wall.



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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    Quote Originally Posted by 59767F7D6A557976797F7D757D766C180 link=1251251711/24#24 date=1251758191

    Lets see what happens with SJNs situation... *My concern would be with a fault that could lead to a fire or dangerous situation..

    I Would not leave on for extended periods of time... Would have on when using and then turn it off at teh wall.


    Good advice indeed. You wouldnt want to leave it unattended.

    Id still be calling a few service agents to get their view in case ACog is right. Just seems a bit wierd to be flashing a certain signal.


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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    Do many leave them "on", and let them go to sleep mode?

    not sure i would leave any SB, or small machine "on", imo the heat build up would have to be detrimental to the lifespan of it.

    the 6910 seems to warm up so fast, why bother leaving it on?
    then after a bit of a heating flush, its ready to go?

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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red


    Quote Originally Posted by 3B373E33333A560 link=1251251711/26#26 date=1251759846
    Do many leave them "on", and let them go to sleep mode?
    I switch mine off after each session. As you say

    Quote Originally Posted by 3B373E33333A560 link=1251251711/26#26 date=1251759846
    the 6910 seems to warm up so fast, why bother leaving it on?
    Besides - it saves on the power bill :D


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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    I only ever leave it on long enough to warm up (about 20 mins) pour my shots clean up and the turn it off.
    I wonder if it could be related to my post back in January about the machine being hotter than I like it to be.

    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1231898947/0#0

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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    Just in case I decide to give the Sunbeam the flick I have been looking at the alternatives. Came across this Isomac Zaffiro & Isomac Granmacinino Combo from site sponsors Di Bartoli.

    http://www.dibartoli.com.au/product_details.asp?pid=175

    Interested in your thoughts about the Isomac Zaffiro

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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    Quote Originally Posted by 3F26224C0 link=1251251711/29#29 date=1251799854
    Just in case I decide to give the Sunbeam the flick I have been looking at the alternatives. Came across this Isomac Zaffiro & Isomac Granmacinino Combo from site sponsors Di Bartoli.

    http://www.dibartoli.com.au/product_details.asp?pid=175

    Interested in your thoughts about the Isomac Zaffiro

    sjn
    The Zaffiro falls into the dual purpose single boiler e-61 class with the VBM Domobar Piccolo (a couple for sale in the Hardware FS section) and the Diadema Perfetta.

    You will have to wait after pulling a shot to texture milk and master the art of boiler priming. The VBM and Perfetta can be tweaked for temperature with the use of a Scace device and therefore can produce great espresso. I have never seen inside a Zaffiro so am unsure if its adjustable as well...

    Hope that helps...

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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    Quote Originally Posted by 653A22343F3438313132323A3639570 link=1251251711/30#30 date=1251800749
    The Zaffiro falls into the dual purpose single boiler e-61 class with the VBM Domobar Piccolo (a couple for sale in the Hardware FS section) and the Diadema Perfetta.

    You will have to wait after pulling a shot to texture milk and master the art of boiler priming. The VBM and Perfetta can be tweaked for temperature with the use of a Scace device and therefore can produce great espresso. I have never seen inside a Zaffiro so am unsure if its adjustable as well...

    Hope that helps...

    2mcm
    Thanks for the info, I have been doing some reading and I dont think that this machine is for me.

    sjn

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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    Hi guys, good to see so many love coffee like I do!

    Was just reading up on the flashing red light thing, I have fixed a few of these and its new to me too. The one I an doing now is a EM6900, when I tern it on it heats up fine and I can steam fine now which was the fault I was fixing but now cant make coffee *or hot water, (these two are conected internaly) It heats the group head but the pump will not go, I may have left somthing unpluged inside.

    Leaving it turned on probable wont start a fire because the two heating elements have thermal fuses on them that blow if it gets to hot and the pumps the same. (however these are quite a strugle to replace)

    Changing the LEDs wont be to hard all you need is a screw driver and a 13mm deap sochet and a little bit of know how when it comes to pulling things apart.

    Sorry for the long post I just had to get it all off mt chest.

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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    My recently deceased EM6910 had the exactly same problem as yours sjn (flashing red light). As with yours it never really seemed to effect performance.

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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    Quote Originally Posted by 2223293A24213B480 link=1251251711/33#33 date=1252990851
    My recently deceased EM6910 had the exactly same problem as yours sjn (flashing red light).As with yours it never really seemed to effect performance. *
    How long did it last before it died on you, or did some other fault develop? I am researching all my options for a replacement, so much to take in and I am now getting infomation overlaod. Too many to pick from.


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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    Hi sjn. as far as I know the flashing red light probably didnt have anything to do with the later problems I had. I did some research into the flashing red light and couldnt find any information (I didnt try contacting Sunbeam). The machine worked perfectly fine otherwise and it wouldnt always flash, so I just learnt to live with it.

    One day, I emptied the reservoir for cleaning. After replacing it and re-filling, the machine did not pump any water through the group. I presumed it was a blockage or air bubble somewhere along the line. When I couldnt flush it out I decided to take it apart (was past its warranty, just). I managed to do more damage to it whilst I was trying to fix it.

    Its been sitting at the SB service centre for nearly 4 weeks now waiting for a repair quote. I suspect it will cost more than its worth.

    I know what you mean about being confused by choices! My advice would be to go as high end as you can, otherwise you will just keep upgrading and spending more money (like me).



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    Re: EM6910 Power Light Flashing Red

    Quote Originally Posted by 6362687B65607A090 link=1251251711/35#35 date=1253000800
    The machine worked perfectly fine otherwise and it wouldnt always flash, so I just learnt to live with it.
    Same for me atm.

    Quote Originally Posted by 6362687B65607A090 link=1251251711/35#35 date=1253000800
    Its been sitting at the SB service centre for nearly 4 weeks now waiting for a repair quote. I suspect it will cost more than its worth.
    I would be interested to know the outcome.

    Quote Originally Posted by 6362687B65607A090 link=1251251711/35#35 date=1253000800
    I know what you mean about being confused by choices!My advice would be to go as high end as you can, otherwise you will just keep upgrading and spending more money (like me).
    If I can get a good grinder and machine for under $3k I would be happy.

    Regards sjn

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    Sorry to dig up an old thread. My em6910 did the same this morning with the red power light flashing constantly. It's a stinking hot day up here in QLD today. The air temp was 35 degrees inside the house by my coffee machine and after being on for about an hour the front panel was too hot to touch for more than a few seconds. The hot water wand was running intermittently but water ran through the group head ok.

    After leaving it off for an hour or so cool down everything seems to have returned to normal.

    I'm wondering if it's an overheat warning?

    To the op did your machine end up dying or did you replace it before that?



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