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    Gaggia Classic Descaling

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    Hi all,

    My Gaggia Classic badly needs a descale. I was all ready to go, citric acid in hand, when I decided to do a quick search on CS. I dont know why it didnt dawn on be earlier but since the boiler is aluminium the descaling options are restricted. Then I noticed in a thread that Gaggia produce their own descaling agent. I have just got back from trudging around the city looking for somebody who sells it with no luck.

    So, for those of you who have Classics, what do you use to descale them? I read somewhere that tartaric acid could be used in place of citric. Is this correct? If so, is the concentration similar to what you would use for citric acid? (I also have a Silvia which I descale with citric)

    Any help would be greatly appreciated! :)

    p.s. In know this issue has been covered to some extent in other threads, but they generally stop short of actually spelling out the actual product and method people use for descaling.


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    Re: Gaggia Classic Descaling

    a tad off topic... but wouldnt mind to know the concentration of citric acid you used to descale miss silvia... :) AND is it worth getting a specific descaler solution or is citric acid fine/the same?

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    Re: Gaggia Classic Descaling

    Quote Originally Posted by 344E244E600 link=1253159244/0#0 date=1253159244
    I read somewhere that tartaric acid could be used in place of citric.
    You could replace them with sulphuric, phosphoric and probably any other type of acid. These will totally destroy your machine much quicker than the citric or tartaric. Dont do it!

    For the life of me I dont understand why people invest $100s and $1000s on a machine then penny pinch when it comes to consumables.
    Quote Originally Posted by 010E0412051734600 link=1253159244/1#1 date=1253167117
    is it worth getting a specific descaler solution
    Yes - Id be surprised if you couldnt get it from any Sponsor.

    Quote Originally Posted by 010E0412051734600 link=1253159244/1#1 date=1253167117
    is citric acid fine/the same?
    Definitely not! I know its easier to ask, but do a little research on the forum and youll find its been discussed ad nauseam!




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    Re: Gaggia Classic Descaling

    yes, well I certainly did do a search and could only find 9 results when searching for "descaling" and 3 for "descaler" so Im not sure thats a particularly nauseating volume of posts! :P *(hence the ask!)

    I do take your point on why skimp on a small expense such as descaler when so much has been invested on the machines! *

    The reason I ask is that its not unusual for a home product to do as a good a job as a commercial one... especially when it comes to cleaning products!

    I shall order me some descaler! As per the original post... Any suggestions of which brand is best?

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    Re: Gaggia Classic Descaling

    Quote Originally Posted by 7C73796F786A491D0 link=1253159244/3#3 date=1253172620
    yes, well I certainly did do a search and could only find 9 results when searching for "descaling" and 3 for "descaler" so Im not sure thats a particularly nauseating volume of posts! Tongue(hence the ask!)
    I got 50 hits on descaler alone, so before you stick your tongue out at me boyo, learn to search. ;D

    In the spirit of goodwill, when searching try changing the default setting from posts made in the last week, to posts made over the last 3 months or year. ;)


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    Re: Gaggia Classic Descaling

    Quote Originally Posted by 69484343445E2D0 link=1253159244/4#4 date=1253173011
    learn to search ...
    ....here

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    Re: Gaggia Classic Descaling

    that would help :P

    Ive just been using the quick search bar at the top right hand side of every page. Ive never come across a site that only searches 1 week back as a default! oh well - next time Ill know to use the proper search function!

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    Re: Gaggia Classic Descaling

    Cripes, 6 replies and barely an on topic response. I too get frustrated with repeated topics when people dont search enough, but this thread is a perfect example of why searching is not always as fruitful as it appears. Now when you search this thread will appear, yet it provides almost no info to the reader.

    Sorry for the rant, but I was kind of hoping for more of a genuine discussion of the "do-s and dont-s" of aluminium boilers and descaling (that I feel might be of some use to people reading this forum). I am aware that there are products out there that can supposedly descale ali boilers without an issue, but exactly what makes them totally safe on aluminium when other commonly used products (eg citric) are a total no go?? My understanding was that acid and aluminium dont mix, regardless of the type of acid. But its also my understanding that descalers are almost all acid based (presumably to counter the scale which is alkaline).

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    Re: Gaggia Classic Descaling

    T.D. While I couldnt find a sponsor that sold Gaggias descaler, the gaggia dot com dot au website did give a phone number to call (in Australia) to order some. Look under helpful hints/maintenance.

    Who knows whats in it, but at least its designed for your machine, and if it screws up, you wont have voided any warranty.

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    Re: Gaggia Classic Descaling

    Quote Originally Posted by 2E2C20282826213C4F0 link=1253159244/8#8 date=1253245475
    T.D. While I couldnt find a sponsor that sold Gaggias descaler, the gaggia dot com dot au website did give a phone number to call (in Australia) to order some. Look under helpful hints/maintenance.

    Who knows whats in it, but at least its designed for your machine, and if it screws up, you wont have voided any warranty.
    TD- Call Bombora supplies. They will have answers rather than just opinions as to which descaler is right/best for a machine with an aluminium boiler. Theyre specialists in filtration and cleaners. Hopefully, that will remove the need for any ranting....

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    Re: Gaggia Classic Descaling

    Cool, thanks guys. I have emailed bombora, but as yet have not heard back. That sounds like it could be the way to go, but I just want to be totally sure its ok with aluminium.

    Otherwise the genuine Gaggia stuff is what I will go for.

    Thanks again.

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    Re: Gaggia Classic Descaling

    What you need is cafetto espresso clean at home.
    http://www.cafetto.com/homeprod.htm#ec@h (scroll down a little)

    I think coffee parts has it (site sponsor) or you can get it at any good coffee suppliers. It is also Australian made and is what I use.

    Never seen, though I have heard of the gaggia cleaner.

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    Re: Gaggia Classic Descaling

    Recently picked up a second hand one of these and will be doing a bit of descaling myself (as well as the steam wand mod, the folks at Di Bartoli are helping me there).

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    Re: Gaggia Classic Descaling

    I picked up some gaggia descaler from harvey norman several months back for $22. hope that helps

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    Re: Gaggia Classic Descaling

    Quote Originally Posted by 383A363E3E30372A590 link=1253159244/8#8 date=1253245475
    Who knows whats in it, but at least its designed for your machine, and if it screws up, you wont have voided any warranty. *
    Just checked my Gaggia Baby Cleaner (really*;D)
    They call it Decalcificatore, and at the bottom it states in Italian:
    Contiente 3 bustine di baby cleaner
    vedi istruzioni interne
    acido tartarico per uso esterno.
    tenere lontano dalla portata dei bambini

    Dont dispair, the sachets have the text in English: DESCALER - Tartaric acid for external use only. Keep out of reach of children.

    One sachet is 30g. Instructions (from the sachet)
    "Remove filter plate with a screwdriver. Clear exit hole. Dissolve contents in water tank of 1.5 liter and turn on pump for 20 secs. Wait 20 mins and repeat. Wait 3 mins. Flush through steam pipe. Repeat whole operation until solution is finished and no scale remains in water. Rinse machine with clean water. Finally, rinse the machine with clean water. Descale every 3 months as machine is not covered by guarantee far scaling."

    thats it, good luck.

    RJ



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