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    Very happy with Sunbeam EM6910 / EM0480 Combo!

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    I have been researching my purchase for the past few weeks on these pages and was convinced that the Silvia / Rocky combo was the way to go, so many glowing reviews.

    I noticed that Grinders were running the 08 model out at 699 but you have to order them, its a bit of a pain...so i thought, no worries I am sure Jetblack will price match , especially if I am buying a grinder, tamper, thermometer coffee AND I do their barista course....well to my amazement they wouldnt price match ! So I turned the car around (by the time I called them I was half way across the harbor bridge, cash in pocket) and spent the rest of Sunday sulking!

    In the meantime I came across a post by Rusty who said that the EM6910 was in his opinion (and this site is all about opinions only) was a better choice than the Silvia. So I contacted him and after a few emails decided that Id try the Sunbeam combo - I live just near a Sunbeam outlet so the machine and the grinder was $700 all up, so quite a saving.

    I have to say that I am VERY VERY impressed at the shots I am getting. A Zillion times better than any of the cafes around here and this is with beans from Tobys Estate that are stamped July 29, so wait til i get some fresh babies ! I ordered some Brown Buys last night :)

    I have been fully warned that this machine wont last as long as the Silvia, but its got a very solid feel about it.

    the grinder is a little on the plastic side, and makes a hell of a mess, but the grind is very good.

    As a footnote to the story, Jetblack got back to me the next day and said that they would do a price match after all, but by then id already made my mind up on the Sunbeam.

    Thanks Rusty for you help - here is a vote for the Sunbeam combo....and I will do the FREE barista course!

    tony


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    Re: Very happy with Sunbeam EM6910 / EM0480 Combo!

    Good on ya tony!,
    Remember not all 6910s go belly up, i would say the majority that have here, are the result of a small percentage breaking and the owners searching the net and finding coffeesnobs.com.au! Your right, it wont last as long as a silvia and rocky but your having fun now, and now is what its all about!
    What browns did you get from Andy? please say the Espresso WOW.....they are all great but the WOW is.....well......WOW!
    enjoy your new machine and stay in touch on teh forum, great bunch here, with a wealth of knowledge on teh 6910 and in general, great conversationalists! ;D

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    Re: Very happy with Sunbeam EM6910 / EM0480 Combo!

    Quote Originally Posted by 03072138383D22353A540 link=1253589428/1#1 date=1253593835
    What browns did you get from Andy?
    I just bought a variety pack to try out a few different beans and hopefully stumble of something I like. I drink lattes so would that suit the Espresso wow bean as well?

    the only shame is that I really have to limit myself to 3 coffees a day....doctors orders (he said 2 actually!) Therefore each one has to be savored!

    cheers

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    Yeah tony the WOW goes amazingly in milk!, doctors orders hey.....was it caffeine or milk that was the problem, remember if you pour double ristrettos instead of your normal shot it contains far less caffeine! :o

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1C183E2727223D2A254B0 link=1253589428/3#3 date=1253596575
    Yeah tony the WOW goes amazingly in milk!, doctors orders hey.....was it caffeine or milk that was the problem, remember if you pour double ristrettos instead of your normal shot it contains far less caffeine! :o
    The caffeine is the problem....so you are suggesting 2 small shots? Not sure I follow your logic !

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6378796E2F27252F170 link=1253589428/0#0 date=1253589428
    Thanks Rusty for you help - here is a vote for the Sunbeam combo....and I will do the FREE barista course!

    Hi Tony,

    Way to go mate ;)

    You will find lots of help here if you get stuck. Glad to see youre signing up for the course - its well worthwhile ;D

    Cheers,

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    Hi Tony, i am too a sunbeam owner and love it too bits, just keep the cleaning up and you shouldnt have any problems.

    Now onto the ristrettos, it means u take the double basket fill it and then only run and single shot through it, u get the flavour of a double and the caffine of a single :D:D

    Keep with the good beans, you will never be dissapointed

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    Quote Originally Posted by 796C7C616F6A666B6F6A0E0 link=1253589428/6#6 date=1253614929
    Hi Tony, i am too a sunbeam owner and love it too bits, just keep the cleaning up and you shouldnt have any problems.

    Now onto the ristrettos, it means u take the double basket fill it and then only run and single shot through it, u get the flavour of a double and the caffine of a single :D:D

    Keep with the good beans, you will never be dissapointed
    Ok...well i always use the double basket and put both into my one cup...is that not the thing to do?

    I use the manual pour as well....have not worked out the programs yet...out of the box they dont seem to do much on mine...!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 39222334757D7F754D0 link=1253589428/7#7 date=1253616877
    I use the manual pour as well....have not worked out the programs yet...out of the box they dont seem to do much on mine...!
    Hi Tony,

    Stay with the manual pour. Each shot is different and with manual you can stop it as soon as blonding appears.

    Cheers,

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    Ok...well i always use the double basket and put both into my one cup...is that not the thing to do? "

    Tony, you are right on track with using the manual, ,many ppl are too lazy to watch the shot so they just use the auto single and double buttons but you are obviously an addict like me and prefer to spend the time extracting true flavor. Keep it up just remember that if you use a smaller cup you can have a stronger coffee but with the same caffine content, my doctor had words in my ear too about number of coffees a day ;).

    Just remember trial and error is where we all started out. We all have to learn and make mistakes, its a fun process though.

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    Re: Very happy with Sunbeam EM6910 / EM0480 Combo!

    Quote Originally Posted by 5247574A44414D404441250 link=1253589428/9#9 date=1253655127
    you are right on track with using the manual
    Well yes, but ...

    In my house of distractions and interuptions (Yes, yes, sacrilegious to interrupt the holy pour but try telling the heathens that.), I use the double shot button as a manual button. I stop the pour manually using the same button a second time but worst case I get a decent cup of coffee if something else happens. :)


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    Re: Very happy with Sunbeam EM6910 / EM0480 Combo!

    Given that I am only ever making a single coffee, should I use i still use the 2 cup filter with the 2 spouts? Or by using the single cup filter will I get a better single shot?

    I am doing the Sunbeam course on Saturday, so hopefully that will help me get the most out of the machine, but even now I have to say that this is a superb machine - and $550 ! Talk about value! The double boiler is a real bonus.

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    Re: Very happy with Sunbeam EM6910 / EM0480 Combo!

    Quote Originally Posted by 657E7F6829212329110 link=1253589428/11#11 date=1253665963
    The double boiler is a real bonus.
    Not wishing to be pedantic Tony, but the EM6910 doesnt have boilers - it has independent twin thermoblocks and twin pumps - what Sunbeam calls the TPTT system :)

    Cheers,

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    Re: Very happy with Sunbeam EM6910 / EM0480 Combo!

    Quote Originally Posted by 4265636469100 link=1253589428/12#12 date=1253666840
    ...what Sunbeam calls the TPTT system *:)

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    Good to hear from you Matt :D

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    My 6910 / 0480 combo is coming up 2 years old soon and (touch wood) still going strong. One weird thing is that the frst group head seal lasted around 14 months, I am now onto my 4th, Im not sure why, Im dosing less coffee into the basket and not turning the handle as far round as I used to, its weird.

    In regards to which filter to use, "generally" you will get better shots from the double filter rather than the single, the single is pickier in terms of dosing / distributing / tamping than the double so many users opt to just use the double shot filter.

    For spouts, it really doesnt matter, so long as you can direct both spouts into 1 vessel.

    I also use the double shot button and press again to stop it if required. I did use the manual button at one stage, until I was distracted and ran a 100ml or so shot (thrown out), so prefer the safety / backup of the preprogrammed buttons.

    We dont get offered the Sunbeam course on the other side of the ditch, but from what I have read on here, people seem to get quite a bit out of it.

    Look after the machine and hopefully it will serve you well for years to come

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    Re: Very happy with Sunbeam EM6910 / EM0480 Combo!

    Quote Originally Posted by 7269687F3E36343E060 link=1253589428/11#11 date=1253665963
    Given that I am only ever making a single coffee, should I use i still use the 2 cup filter with the 2 spouts? Or by using the single cup filter will I get a better single shot?
    Given that what works for you, works for you--there is no absolute correct answer except via your taste buds.

    Im sure the majority here however would say to throw the single basket into a drawer and forget which drawer. Then use the double basket, with a full double dose and extract however much gives you the taste you like best--probably between 20 and 40 ml. This is known as a ristretto and gives all the flavour of the longer shots with much less caffeine and hence bitterness.

    Enjoy the course, and the coffee. Let us know how you go.

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    Re: Very happy with Sunbeam EM6910 / EM0480 Combo!

    So should i upgrade the tamper? The one that comes with the Sunbeam is surprisingly good - i was expecting the usual black plastic job.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 706B6A7D3C34363C040 link=1253589428/17#17 date=1253682532
    So should i upgrade the tamper? The one that comes with the Sunbeam is surprisingly good - i was expecting the usual black plastic job.
    If you do, then I would be very interested in your experience Tony.

    There is such a divergent body of opinion on tamping :-/
    To tamp or not to tamp.
    Handstand, gentle or somewhere in between.
    Convex or flat.
    Aluminium, SS or something altogether different.

    Like you, I find the Sunbeam tamper excellent.

    Maybe someone will convince me otherwise ;)



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    Re: Very happy with Sunbeam EM6910 / EM0480 Combo!

    Quote Originally Posted by 7B5C5A5D50290 link=1253589428/18#18 date=1253683102
    If you do, then I would be very interested in your experience Tony.

    There is such a divergent body of opinion on tamping *:-/
    To tamp or not to tamp.
    Handstand, gentle or somewhere in between.
    Convex or flat.
    Aluminium, SS or something altogether different.

    Like you, I find the Sunbeam tamper excellent.

    Maybe someone will convince me otherwise *;)
    I suspect it would be easier to get more consistent results with a steel tamper due to the weight. *Iíve never actually tried using my Sunbeam tamper as I already owned a 58mm Rattleware one when I bought the 6910. I must do the same trial myself.

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    Re: Very happy with Sunbeam EM6910 / EM0480 Combo!

    Ive had my 6910 for over 12 months now and still use the stock tamper with it. While I will admit, my hip pocket twitches each time I see a pullman tamper, the stock tamper is quite good.

    I also have a tamper that came with my "Coffees bean" knock box, IMO its a piece of junk. way too much wiggle room and it feels horrible to use.

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    Re: Very happy with Sunbeam EM6910 / EM0480 Combo!

    Like those above, I have had no problems with my 6910 other than non-pour when first bought due to previous owwner having NEVER cleaned it. Regular cleaning, double basket (lets me pour either a milk based drink and an espresso, or what I now know to be a ristretto), its going well and I can see it giving me good service while I save for my upgrade. Saving for a Pullman for the upgrade as well, the stock tamper does the job for me.

    Good luck and happy espressing mate.



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