Could I ask for a little bit of guidance re a home machine.
I prefer flat whites, SWMBO enjoys lattes. We would only pull maybe 1-2cups weekdays, more on weekends. We wouldnt normally be pulling more then the 2 cups, but I guess if visitors come over we may need it to pull 4 or so.
Obviously I need a grinder as well.
From my observations and readings it looks like a lelit combi will do the job, can anyone recommend any other machines?
I have an old krupps that I rarely use, and now resort to a plunger type system.
Budget will stretch to 1000, but happy to find something around 8-900.
Should also mention I am based in Adelaide.
I endorse the Lelit (pictured above)...had mine for about a year and I must admit I havent mastered the steam for milk-based coffee but I only drink espresso and its a beaut.
Now, where is the best place to find a lelit? The sponsers sell them right? Are they the cheapest?
2nd hand 1 grp HX
you then dont need to ever really upgrade..... but yes your going to need a few more $$ for a grinder...
thanks maheel... Ill consider a HX machine, but want something that will last the distance and maybe a second hand machine wont give me trouble free brewing..Originally Posted by 28242D202029450 link=1277118975/4#4 date=1277246884
Can someone advise how many years or so I could realistically get out of the Lelit? 5, 10? Are these considered pro-sumer?
Im just writing up a business plan for the minister of finances ;D
Originally Posted by 7E7A64796E6568690D0 link=1277118975/5#5 date=1277471235
A hx will do better that some of the other stuff..
I would not call these or a Silva *etc a prosumer......Can someone advise how many years or so I could realistically get out of the Lelit? 5, 10? Are these considered pro-sumer?
As to how long they will last... Again.. How long is a piece of string.. *How long will my Prado *4x4 last ? *All depends on who and how it is driven... *
In the right hands they will last for years and still pull great coffee..
For many users - Give them one of the cheaper units OR even a $5K machine ... *Dead and stuffed in a couple of years at best.... *
BZ99 and after 14years they still run like a dream... *Just dont have lots of bling or gauges or lcd displays.. But make great coffee and will do for another 5 to 10 years...
So in the plan... Who is in charge of cleaning and general maintenance... Because that is what will be the factor as to life expectancy..Originally Posted by 2A2E302D3A313C3D590 link=1277118975/5#5 date=1277471235
Thanks AM, unfortunately yours truely will be handed the cleaning duties... small price to pay me thinks for a better coffee experience at home.
I tend to be very meticulous will all of the things I own, including my prado (yes, truely). Unlike a new coffee machine, this beast can take a flogging. *;DAs to how long they will last... Again.. How long is a piece of string.. *How long will my Prado *4x4 last ? *All depends on who and how it is driven...
What I am ultimately hoping for is a machine that wont let me down... Unfortunately all the sponsers are interstate so cant see and have a play with one in person *>:( so ill continue doing my research until Im absolutely happy with my decision.
If ya likley to have a few people around... Make a couple of coffee/s and the odd mug or two and use milk..Originally Posted by 5E5A44594E4548492D0 link=1277118975/7#7 date=1277473610
Stay away from teh small boiler systems.. The steam and refilling will be an issue an then you will be chasing further relaxations and loos all credibility ;)
You want something that will do the two of you and or a few more for a few years.. Then at <1000 you will need to look at pre loved... Take ya time and wait... Plenty out there and rushing will not win you any brownie points..
Now some might laugh... but is ya can get access to a BZ99 you would be laughing.. And while some would say that they are almost Vintage.. They keep on trucking and all parts are still available...
Thanks AM, I think youve well and truly convinced me of an upgrade to a HX machine for slightly more $$.
Unfortunately the new HX machines are out of my range so its to the second hand market.
I guess eBay and the buy/sell here is the best spot for a second hand machine?
HX or A well tuned other system...Originally Posted by 26223C21363D3031550 link=1277118975/9#9 date=1277513480
The small boilers are an issue for SOME users and depending on the functionality they may not be teh best for your long term expectations..
Have a read and look at the Equipment review section....
Then re visit what ya realy want because if your doing your homework... Remember teh GRINDER can be teh most important item..
$450 - $800 will see you set up with a NEW one... Of course a $6k grinder will do better BUT!!!!
We wont mention the CSer who picked up a bargain Giotto Premium on evilbay last year, received a write off and then spent $800+ with me just to get it to work...Still looked *like a train wreck after I had it running ::)Originally Posted by 5D59475A4D464B4A2E0 link=1277118975/9#9 date=1277513480
Probably not eBay unless you know what youre looking at and can inspect the machine, preferably running.Originally Posted by 46425C41565D5051350 link=1277118975/9#9 date=1277513480