Hi Guys,

My Gaggia has been very well behaved for nearly 10years but now I need (want) to upgrade to something with a bit more grunt for milk frothing.

Has anyone seen some 'unreal' deal around for the Sylvia or Lelit PL41?

My budget is $500...

I know Grinders had some Sylvia at this price in may (silly me for not knowing)

Suggestions / experiences....