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    Miss Silvia questions

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Brousing this web site is expensive, it just cost me $639, but for that i got a shiny new Rancilio Silvia (Mocopan). So my first question is (the manual is pretty useless), do I need to empty the boiler everytime I switch her off, and if so, how? Next, I was thinking of complimenting my Miss Silvia with a Iberital Challenge grinder. Any opionions on this choice? The Rocky just seems too expensive. Gotta go, my wife is demanding more Caffeine. More questions to follow.

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    Glad to see we have you tempted to spend your money! ;) Keep the boiler full, ESPECIALLY if you are keeping her on a timer. Get into the habit of refilling the boiler every single time if you are steaming. Its not really an issue if you are just pulling shots.

    As for the grinder, we upgraded from a little Russell Hobbs bur grinder to a Solis 166 when we got our silvia and we were sorry that we didnt just put that money toward a rocky sooner, we wouldve saved ourselves $195, both grinders went to good homes though.

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    Re: Miss Silvia questions

    Thanks for the tips. The manual often prompts you to refill the boiler, but its not clear on how to do this. What do you recommend? Sorry for the basic questions, I really am a beginner!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cafeoholic link=1096021673/0#2 date=1096027346
    Thanks for the tips. The manual often prompts you to refill the boiler, but its not clear on how to do this. What do you recommend? Sorry for the basic questions, I really am a beginner!
    Cafeoholic,

    What I do is run hot water into a jug for a few seconds (maybe 5-10) at the end of every session. This way I know the boiler is full and leaving it on for any period of time won’t be a problem.

    Welcome to the fold.

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    Re: Miss Silvia questions

    There are a number of articles around - here is a link to one
    http://members.dodo.net.au/gregnmim/FAQ.htm

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    Re: Miss Silvia questions

    Without BLOWING my own trumpet... I like my Tamper more,,,,I had a laugh

    http://www.coffeesnobs.com.au/cgi-bi...num=1091580521

    Cofeoholic... you wanted a good excuse to give to the wife..(Ministress of Finance) tell her that it basically guarantees a 50% better result in coffee. why...because it does. Tell her FrenchBean says so, and hes a good bloke...hehehehe

    as Ed said welcome to the fold, indeed you are welcome.

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    Re: Miss Silvia questions

    Quote Originally Posted by cafeoholic link=1096021673/0#0 date=1096021673
    I was thinking of complimenting my Miss Silvia with a Iberital Challenge grinder. Any opionions on this choice?
    The Iberital is a fine grinder - better than the Rocky in some ways (infinite grind settings, less grinds left in doser for those versions, usually more stable burr carrier). The Rocky is more solidly built but for domestic use, that shouldnt matter. The Rocky can be easily tweaked to overcome these issues (toothpick wedging for adjustment, sweeper extensions to doser vanes, teflon tape on upper burr carrier) but it does cost more.

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    Re: Miss Silvia questions

    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeSnobs link=1096021673/0#4 date=1096028243
    Either run water through the group or run water through the steam wand which also has the effect of cleaning it and filling the boiler.
    You really need to run water through the steam wand of a dual purpose boiler machine to ensure that it is filled properly. This is because the boiler gets filled from the bottom while steam is taken from the top and group water is taken from the middle area (through a tube) so an air pocket will not be cleared through the group.

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    Running water through the group has the same effect of filling the boiler plus rinsing the shower screen.

    Rich

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    Thanks for all the help. The story so far.......the coffee is much better than the first attempts, but I am still struggling to get 2 good strong cups from a double shot, using the double basket. I havent invested in the grinder yet (very soon), but have tried a few different "shop" grinds. I have also concentrated on getting the tamp right. My first improvement (on the plastic job) was to use a flat bottomed drinking glass. A vast improvement. I have taken a leaf out of FrenchBeans book, and gotten myself a huge lump of brass. Its now 58mm diameter, 110mm long and weighs in at 2.1Kg, and I can see my reflection in one end (uugh!!!). I havent had time to test it yet, but will report back soon. Next question....am I expecting too much in terms of coffee strength, should I persever in prefecting my technique, or splash out on a Morzocco 14g or 18g basket?

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    Re: Miss Silvia questions

    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeSnobs link=1096021673/0#14 date=1096536374
    Running water through the group has the same effect of filling the boiler plus rinsing the shower screen.
    It doesnt. Gas that is above the level of the tube feeding the group head will not be cleared this way. Only by priming through the steam wand will the boiler be completely filled.
    Quote Originally Posted by cafeoholic link=1096021673/15#15 date=1096632924
    Next question....am I expecting too much in terms of coffee strength, should I persever in prefecting my technique, or splash out on a Morzocco 14g or 18g basket?
    You wont get consitent improvements without a decent grinder - it is as important as the machine.

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    It doesnt. Gas that is above the level of the tube feeding the group head will not be cleared this way. Only by priming through the steam wand will the boiler be completely filled.
    I pulled the top off my Silvia for a look. Except for about 3mm either method of filling the boiler will do the trick. ;)

    So long as you run water through something you cant go to far wrong. :)

    The important thing is not to leave the boiler empty.

    Rich

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    Re: Miss Silvia questions

    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeMugs link=1096021673/15#17 date=1097498210

    I pulled the top off my Silvia for a look. Except for about 3mm either method of filling the boiler will do the trick. ;)
    So the feed to the group head comes from that far up the boiler? I thought the cold water inlet would start feeding directly to the group if it was that close. Oh well, as long as the heating elements arent exposed, then things will be fine.

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    Re: Miss Silvia questions

    Maybe the take off for the group head is on the top, but internally, the pipe extends to the bottom of the boiler. Just a thought. Tried looking on the "coffee parts" website, but the boiler isnt on the parts sheets.

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    Re: Miss Silvia questions

    Hi all, Im a bit confused - do you ensure the boiler is full by running water out of the group/wand by using the "BREW" or "HOT WATER" button? (Silvia)

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    Yaukwang,

    Quote Originally Posted by yaukwang link=1096021673/0#14 date=1098341060
    Hi all, Im a bit confused - do you ensure the boiler is full by running water out of the group/wand by using the "BREW" or "HOT WATER" button? (Silvia)
    If you have a Sivia the instructions are in the manual. In my copy of the manual (p32) under "fill the water tank" with a few word changes:
    • Release filter handle, open the steam tap, press the main switch and at the same time presss the coffee switch.
    • When water begins to come out of the steam pipe, close the steam tap and allow water to flow from the coffee outlet for a few seconds after which time the coffee switch 3 should be switched off.

    In summary, Rancilio recommends using the steam/hot water outlet AND a finishing flush through the Group.

    cheers,

    Graeme

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    Re: Miss Silvia questions

    I am thinking of getting my OH an espresso machine for Christmas and am feeling rather swayed towards the Sylvia . I have seen mentioned that you can get it cheaper at mocopan . Where are they located ? I am in Melbourne .
    Sadie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sadie link=1096021673/15#16 date=1098372690
    I am thinking of getting my OH an espresso machine for Christmas and am feeling rather swayed towards the Sylvia . I have seen mentioned that you can get it cheaper at mocopan . Where are they located ? I am in Melbourne .
    Sadie
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    Mocopan are in Preston - http://tinyurl.com/5r7kn
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    Sadie you wont go wrong with a Silvia.
    Make sure you tell Mocopan that we helped you decide.

    I think 5 or 6 ppl have brought thier Silvia from Mocopan as a result of descussions here.

    Rich

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    Re: Miss Silvia questions

    Sounds about right ;D
    I really love our Silvia. Especially this week. Kenya AA Masai has been a particularly yummy roast this week. 8)

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    Re: Miss Silvia questions

    Country NSW has a new distributor for Racilio gear as well............. There prices are good as well, We bought a KitchenAid K5 mixer from them for nearly $500 less than RRP, nice people to deal with too.

    If I didnt have my Boema I would be looking at the Sylvia too!

    FB :-)

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    Re: Miss Silvia questions

    FB
    You said "Country NSW has a new distributor for Racilio gear as well"

    Who is it and where are they based?
    Thanks
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    Re: Miss Silvia questions

    Sorry Chris, I cant tell you on this forum as it is not allowed, against the rules.

    FB :(

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    Yes you can FB us recommending places is allowed but them comming here of thier own accord and thinking they can advertise for free isnt.

    So spill the beans ;)

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    Re: Miss Silvia questions

    Bundella Distributors Molong. NSW Ph 02 63668778... Pracilla/Prassilla is the lady you need to speak to.
    Thank Rich, Chance of them adverting or commoing on the net would be limited....... Ill explain to you why later

    FB :)

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    Re: Miss Silvia questions

    Does anyone know where I can buy a Rancilio Rocky and Silvia combo? Sienna and coffeeco both seem unable to supply at the moment. Ive spent months saving up to buy a Silvia but now I have the money they arent available (seemingly).

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    Try Mocopan in Melbourne

    http://tinyurl.com/5r7kn

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    Another New Miss Silvia owner and question

    Hi ppl,
    We became the proud parents of a mIss Silvia on Tuesday and have started on the learning curve to a perfect coffee.
    We purchased the Rocky as well as the local reseller did a good deal. My first question of many to come.
    When I empty the portafilter after making a cup the spent grinds are a lot wetter than when the dealer was showing me how to do it. What would be the cause of this?

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    Re: Miss Silvia questions

    There are a few options.
    Could be not enough coffee in the portafilter.
    Could be the tamp is not correct.

    How is the coffee and the crema coming out?
    If it is not very strong, then the grind might be too coarse.

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    Re: Miss Silvia questions

    Part of your problem could also be that your grind is too fine.
    Also remember that with different roasts also comes different grinding grades.

    Nice to hear you becoame the proud Parents, Does she sleep all of the way through the night.... ;D

    You will also find that the Coffee Grinds left over after you brew are also very good for your garden.

    Welome to CS Mundi

    FB :)

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    Re: Miss Silvia questions

    Thanks guys,
    The crema is ok but not great, and the coffee is a good strength. Is it possible to over tamper or in other words over compress the grind?

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    Hi Mundi

    If you tamp too hard youll end up with no shot as the pump wont be able to push water through the grounds.

    Cheers

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    Hi Mundi,

    Ive found when I first got my Silvia (only a month ago), I was getting good looking, dry pucks out of it. But I soon discovered I was using too course a grind (shop ground). I think I have now got this right, the coffee tastes much better, great crema, and stronger, but the pucks now come out wet on top if I remove them immediately after brewing. But if I leave them in for just a minute or so, they come out pretty dry - so Im not sure when you should gauge the "dryness". I bet this hasnt helped you one bit, I just wanted to assure you that youre not the only one on that steep learning curve.

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    Re: Miss Silvia questions

    Behmor Brazen - $249 - Free Freight
    An Iberital grinder goes very well with Miss Silvia. I chose one without the doser, so it grinds directly into the portafilter basket. The adjustment is very fine and continuous, no knotches or detents which can over- or under-compensate the grind. Furthermore, it has a neat little timer (a screw) and pressing the portafilter against a switch under the holder turns it on.

    Needless to say, the shots are fantastic, with a deep, dark crema. I recommend using glass instead of a cup so the crema formation can be appreciated more.



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