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    Take part in developing a cafe with good coffee!

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    Hey guys,

    Just figured you guys would be best for the advice. My parents are starting another venture and are going to develop a business like a small restaurant/cafe for tourist season out in the Gulf of Carpentaria.

    They are looking for advice on coffee machines, grinders etc for them to use. I thought "why not ask the guys who know what they are talking about".

    So what are some good commercial brands for grinders and machines (2 group heads max). Thoughts on beans can come later, although being isolated it will be hard to ship in small amounts often.

    any thoughts? assistance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0D0A3C39385D0 link=1256613889/0#0 date=1256613889
    Hey guys,

    Just figured you guys would be best for the advice. My parents are starting another venture and are going to develop a business like a small restaurant/cafe for tourist season out in the Gulf of Carpentaria.

    They are looking for advice on coffee machines, grinders etc for them to use. I thought "why not ask the guys who know what they are talking about".

    So what are some good commercial brands for grinders and machines (2 group heads max). Thoughts on beans can come later, although being isolated it will be hard to ship in small amounts often.

    any thoughts? assistance?
    Hi PWade,

    As always, if you want advice, you need to provide a budget. No good us recommending Slayers and wall to wall Robur-e if your folks only have 50 bucks to play with ;)

    What do they want to spend- assuming machine, good grinder and (hopefully) a decaf grinder as a minimum?

    2mcm

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    PWade,

    I used to live in Mount Isa and worked for a local grocery wholesale company for about 5 years that delivered to a lot of station properties and businesses around that area via local transport. If your parents are serious about their coffee they might be better going the extra expense and effort and roasting their own. The green beans will last ages. When the wet season hits, the roads close and the only way to get things in and out are by plane, and sadly coffee wont be on the priority list. I remember being stuck in Mount Isa for 2 months because the roads were closed during the wet.

    Its a lovely area up there, the people are great, but its hard to get the produce delivered in that isolated area in the same condition that you expect in the major cities. Powdered milk is also the beverage of choice during the wet, so maybe they need a cow too? :)

    Good luck to your folks.

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    Talk about a challenge! *What about machine servicing? *They will probably want to 2 machines in case of a break down or if you have to send away for servicing.

    Is the market big enough there to justify that sort of cost?

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    Re: Take part in developing a cafe with good coffee!

    Quote Originally Posted by 41404A594742582B0 link=1256613889/3#3 date=1256645940
    They will probably want to 2 machines in case of a break down or if you have to send away for servicing.
    hmmm... tried for the second time today to visit a Tamworth cafe recommended on this site. Last time they were painting and today they were closed because their coffee machine was broken. Time to get a second machine!

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    Re: Take part in developing a cafe with good coffee!

    Quote Originally Posted by 732C342229222E272724242C202F410 link=1256613889/1#1 date=1256615060
    Hi PWade,

    As always, if you want advice, you need to provide a budget. No good us recommending Slayers and wall to wall Robur-e if your folks only have 50 bucks to play with Wink

    What do they want to spend- assuming machine, good grinder and (hopefully) a decaf grinder as a minimum?

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    2mcm, as far as costs go, they are unsure as to the magnitude of the costs needed... so perhaps something ranging from a competent set up that you guys would be happy to sip a coffee and watch the "morning glory" clouds roll over in the sky... (only 2 places in the world where they have it... mexico i think, and Burketown where my parentals are)

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    Re: Take part in developing a cafe with good coffee!

    understandably during the wet, there will be problems, they are priming up for the dry periods, when tourists come through... the redbull crew apparently come up there a lot for the morning glory clouds and hang gliding...

    i will talk about self roasting to them, if that is the case, what are ball park figures for a roaster... not too manual/technical a process is it?

    i will keep you posted on what the deal is with it... keep in mind my parents are not coffee connoisseurs but no doubt they want to provide a drop of espresso better than the run of the mill truck stop haha...

    EDIT:
    generally, with the coffee machine packages, would training on the machine be with it?

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    Plenty of info on roasting on this site, you can get as technical as you like but basically you need to settle on a roast profile and repeat it over and over using a roaster that will do the job (generally quite expensive). Generally with coffee machines training is not included but it can be negotiated but make sure that they know what they are talking about before you sign up.

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    Maybe your parents need to hire someone who knows how to make great coffee for a few weeks to show them how it is done.
    Also remember there are many people out there who like a scaulding hot latte or cap and dont care if you do microfoam they just want grannyfoam.
    Get to know the clientell and serve them what they want, and slowly educate them to something that is better.

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    are your folks on grid power or going to run a generator, that will need to be considered.

    I lived in the Isa for a while, funny place to live...... hope i never have to again but........



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