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    Synesso Baskets

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    Just wondering peoples opinions. I want to get a new basket for my machine. I remember reading somewhere on a site that Synesso baskets are the best and nothing compares. Is this really true and is it worth the upgrade. I would probably get a Coffee tamp while im at it so would need to make up my mind now on wether or not I get the synesso. Either way I"m not happy with the basket on my oscar so would be changing to something else anyway.

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    Re: Synesso Baskets

    Quote Originally Posted by 7A454344595E6F725F495C55300 link=1258449962/0#0 date=1258449962
    Synesso baskets are the best and nothing compares.
    I wouldnt go that far but if you get a Synesso you can buy a Pullman tamper at the same time thats made to fit the basket.

    The combination of Synesso basket with fitted Pullman tamper is worth the upgrade in my opinion.

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    I am interested to know what makes one basket superior to another...for example what is it about the Synesso basket which arguably makes it better? I wouldnt need much excuse for an upgrade here :P

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    The Synesso basket is ridgeless and that kinda prevents the grounds from swirling around in the ridge. Easier clean up i suppose.

    also, i think the synesso baskets are slightly larger than normal double baskets at 18gms rather than 14gms

    You might need a stronger spring to hold the synesso basket though since there isnt a ridge to hold it in place.

    someone correct me if i am wrong..

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    Re: Synesso Baskets

    What the other guys have already said, and....

    Synesso baskets are well made, in that they are very consistent in diameter from one to another; the vertical section at the top of the basket is uniformly perpendicular from one to another, i.e. they do not taper towards the centre and make sizing an after-market Tamper difficult to do; the base of the basket is perpendicular to the basket axis and parallel to the top of the basket rim (some other makes are not quite so diligent in this regard), therefore making it a lot less likely to create coffee cakes of non-uniform thickness which may lead to channelling or irregular extraction across the puck.

    They are also readily available from a wide number of sources for very reasonable cost.

    There may be more pros to add to the list but thats about as many I can think of.... ;)

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    Thanks guys. To be honest I dont need a lot of convincing. Anything that makes coffee making more consistent to me is a good thing. The baskets on the oscars are known to be gushers.

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    I must say I still prefer the La Marzocco baskets. Yes I do own both LM and Synesso (came with the Naked PF from coffee parts). But this is just down to personal preference and nothing else.

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    Ditto all comments. Synessos are great baskets but there are other good ones out there too. One reason theyve become more well known is because people have bought them with tampers from us, which is a lot easier for most people than posting their baskets in to us for sizing.

    The diameters do vary from batch to batch, but provided you get a tamper with the basket (or take your basket with you when you buy your tamper if you get the basket first) then you will know theyll fit each other. Ridgeless Gaggia baskets are normally pretty good too, as are the EM6910 baskets.

    Personally I dont like the LM ones that much because the walls cut in quite quickly around the portafilter spring ridge so the tamp pressure tends to max out on the ridge, leaving the central lower portion underpressurised; by contrast the ridgeless Synessos walls are parallel all the way down (or at least in the upper portion) so you can tamp as deep as you need and apply that pressure to all of the puck rather than just the outer upper portion. But as MM said some of these things are up to personal choice.

    Synesso doubles are still nominally 14g baskets but 16-18g is more standard capacity, especially if you collapse prior to tamping.

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    My Bezz baskets are pretty good too and seem very similar to the Synesso ones I have...

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    It wouldnt surprise me Mal if a lot of these baskets (be they Synesso, Bezzera, Gaggia or something else) all come out of the same factory. Its difficult to confirm that for certain but even if theyre the same now, one manufacturer could choose to change supplier at any point and suddenly theyre different. So one has to presume theyre different, especially on a forum like this where information can stick around for a while, and to rely on each manufacturers quality control to maintain a good quality basket whoever they actually source it from.

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    Yep, youre right there Greg and fair point.... :)

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    Re: Synesso Baskets

    Just wanted to jump on this thread and ask if anybody knows the diameter of the 18g synesso baskets? I want to order a RB US curve online.

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    Re: Synesso Baskets

    Quote Originally Posted by 577B68747B69691A0 link=1258449962/11#11 date=1263086911
    Just wanted to jump on this thread and ask if anybody knows the diameter of the 18g synesso baskets? I want to order a RB US curve online.

    Cheers
    Measured my new one yesterday, its near enough to 59 mm
    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1262936740

    Cheers,

    Jon. :)

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    Re: Synesso Baskets

    As I mentioned earlier in this thread, youll see variations with Synessos like you will with most other baskets. Ive got a Synesso double at home that measures 58.74mm but the ones were receiving now are somewhat larger than that. Dont ever rely on historical basket measurements if youre wanting anything better than an approximate fit - treat each one as an individual.

    If youre after a RB youd be best to get your basket first and measure it up, and then order a tamper to fit the basket you have. At least then youll be fairly likely to get the fit right. Alternatively if youre not set on a RB we can supply tampers and Synesso baskets fitted as a fitted pair and save you the messing around.

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    Re: Synesso Baskets

    i remember you saying when i got mine off you greg that the synessos are more "perfectly round" than others, is this still the case?


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    Yep theyre still very good in that regard; the ridged ones are a bit worse as they sometimes deform slightly when having the ridge pressed but not the ridgeless ones. That said anything could change at any time, which is why I never say baskets from machine xyz are 58.xx in diameter as a blanket statement.

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    Re: Synesso Baskets

    I have a ridgeless Synesso (double) matched to a pullman tamper. *The fit is perfect - like a piston and sleeve. *Recommended ;D

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    Weve been supplying Synesso baskets since mid 2007 and in that time weve seen the diameter vary by more than 0.5mm. The latest batch weve received are smaller than the previous one and some are also slightly out of round by about 0.1mm. As I said before, dont ever rely on historical basket measurements if youre wanting anything better than an approximate fit - treat each one as an individual.

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    Hi All,

    Just like to add my second crack worth to this discussion.

    I made the swicth to a pullman (checker board) tamper and matching single and double san esso ridgeless baskets with double strength springs to lock them in.

    After using the factory baskets which came with my Club ME coffee machine , the comparison is hardly worth making.

    Pullman tampers and san esso baskets - Match made in heaven !



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