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    Anyone found spare parts for Imat Napoletana II?

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    hey everyone, my mums napoletana has had a minor incident, dont exactly know whats going on in there but the local electician says its looking sick.... anyone know of where I might obtain spares from?
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    As far as I know the importer is Lygon Imports, Melbourne. Id give them a call and find out who their service agent is for your area...if you are in Synnie, I believe they have an offce there.

    You wrote "parts", not "service". Be careful if you are playing with lektrickery...

    Good luck,
    FC.

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    Re: Anyone found spare parts for Imat Napoletana I

    Thanks FC, as always your avice is great.

    Warning well heeded. Notice I mention "local electician" (yeah, whoops, good spelling there Brett), I just needed to find who he might talk to so he can get parts, or find who to send it to.

    Cheers

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    Re: Anyone found spare parts for Imat Napoletana I

    Poundy,

    How did you go with getting parts?

    I lost my double basket - and given how crappy the single basket is, Im starting to freak out.

    Stuart

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    Re: Anyone found spare parts for Imat Napoletana I

    Id also make mention of Alan Frew at Coffee for Connoisseurs in Melbourne www.coffeeco.com.au. Hes a reseller of these and all the parts Ive needed thus far (only gaskets thankfully) hes been able to supply quickly and cheaply.

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    Re: Anyone found spare parts for Imat Napoletana I

    strange we got a bit more of a hit on this topic lately..... the saga is still going.......

    So as you may know I had the element repaired commercially in Sydney by the service agent (name withheld), so the electrician mentioned in this post didnt need to worry about parts after all.

    This only introduced a new challenge, the group seal was dodgy and needed renewing. Said repairer in Sydney didnt care to hear about a "parts only" supply of bits like that.

    So I went back to Lygon directly. While getting the group seal, I decided to replace things like the shower screen screw thats a bit worse for wear, plus a new set of spouts and a replacement double basket etc - to make the postage worthwhile :) Im STILL waiting to get confirmation of all parts I requested are available, and havent had much joy in getting straight answers. So my mum is still drinking plunger and the Napolitana is still sitting disassembled on the bench......

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    I finally got my double basket replacement from Lygon, but still waiting to hear on gaskets and a shower screen bolt as well.

    BTW, I cant get the original screen bolt off - any tips?

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    Re: Anyone found spare parts for Imat Napoletana I

    Gday Lyds,

    Welcome to CoffeeSnobs by the way [smiley=thumbsup.gif].

    I know its not of much use to you now but when you first receive your new espresso machine, one should loosen off the shower-screen screw and re-tighten so that it is at best, only finger tight. If you allow it to remain fully tightened, the constant heating/cooling cycles eventually work their magic and cause the screw to become almost impossible to remove.

    All is not completely lost though. You will need to be able to turn your machine upside down on a tea-towel or similar, so all loose equipment and the water reservoir, etc need to be removed. Once upside down you are then able to exert a lot more force on the head of the screw and stand a better chance of being able to loosen it. Depending on whether you have the Philips Head screw or the Slotted Head screw, you just need to make sure that your screwdriver of choice is a good tight fit, to avoid jumping the screwdriver out of the screw-head as you apply more and more torque.

    If this does not yield results, you may have to resort to a Hammer Drill and a suitable driver bit. Just need to make sure that you can adjust the torque setting on the drill you use otherwise you may strip the head of the screw out or even shear the head right off the screw. Neither scenario is particularly helpful. An option to the Hammer Drill is an Impact Torque Driver. They do a similar job to the Hammer Drill but rely on being struck with a Hammer that in turn transfers some of this energy into a loosening/tightening torque as well as providing a shock load on the screw that may well encourage it to loosen. Thats about all I can think of at the moment so hope its helpful. All the best,

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    Re: Anyone found spare parts for Imat Napoletana I

    Thanks Mal.

    Unfortunatley its a hexagonal bolt, not a screw.

    All my attempts so far just seem to burr it. Perhaps its time for some WD40 :-)

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    Re: Anyone found spare parts for Imat Napoletana I

    Oh no mate :o,

    Dont use WD40 or similar, youll never be able to get rid of it and it will always taint your coffee..... terrible stuff (for that job anyway). A better idea would be to use a socket or a ring spanner that is a reasonably tight fit on the nut, and just prior to applying torque to the spanner/socket, heat up the periphery of the group with a small propane torch or similar as quickly as you can and then try to loosen it (the nut). It would probably be helpful to have someone giving you a hand to do this as you dont want any delay between applying the heat and loosening the nut.

    If this doesnt do the trick or you are unable to get a small propane torch, about the only penetrating oil that I would want anywhere near my espresso machine would be "Oil of Cloves". I know it has a very pungent smell but it is about the best non mineral-based penetrating oil thats around and can be washed out very effectively with the espresso clean when you are finished. I wouldnt use this method prior to the application of heat with the propane torch though..... High enough temperatures will burn the oil into a very tough varnish like film that can be extremely difficult to remove, so try the heat first and if needed, then the Oil of Cloves. Hope this helps out a bit.....

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    Re: Anyone found spare parts for Imat Napoletana I

    Hi Lyds,

    Sounds all too familiar to me! :) My machine has the screw not the bolt but I expect youll be able to get around it the same way I did...

    Remove the water tank and invert the machine such that the grinder hopper is over the edge of the bench or something so youre not putting pressure on it.

    Next you need a hammer and a centre punch. Position the centre punch as close to the right-hand edge of the bolt (or screw) head as possible, but not so close that it will slip off. Now you need to hold the punch vertical and hit it firmly with the hammer (believe me this was a hard exercise for me with my 3 week old machine!), firmly enough and for long enough to make a decent dent in the bolt.

    Once youre at this point you should have an indentation at the outer right-hand edge of the bolt, with still a little bit of metal between the indentation and the edge of the bolt. Now you need to keep hitting the end of punch with the hammer, but start lowering the angle of the punch toward you. What youre doing now is using some of the force to hold the punch in place and bed it deeper into the bolt, and using some of it to apply some anti-clockwise rotational force to the bolt, which, combined with the shocking from the hammer, should help to break the lock on the thread and also to loosen the bolt. Once its loose of course you can proceed with a ring spanner and eventually your fingers. If youve got an understanding of physics, youll see that the closer the punch is to the edge of the bolt (i.e. the further it is from the centre point of the bolt), the greater the rotational force applied by this method.

    Youll clearly need to replace the bolt after this, so take it to somewhere like Coventry Fasteners and ask for an equivalent unit in brass or stainless steel. My original screw was just mild steel which rusted and aggravated the situation. Since using a stainless unit Ive had no problems at all.

    HTH!

    Greg

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    Re: Anyone found spare parts for Imat Napoletana I

    Thanks so much for the suggestions, now Im beginning to like my bolt the way it is :-)


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    Re: Anyone found spare parts for Imat Napoletana I

    Dont give up! Youll be amazed at the amount of black muck under the showerscreen when you get it off, particularly if you dont backflush. Every brews going through that!

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    Re: Anyone found spare parts for Imat Napoletana I

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    Thanks Greg. I tried the centre punch and it worked. and the gunk; I was lucky any brew was getting thru at all!



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