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    which Pavoni is this -- and help with use.

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    Ive been given an indefinite loan of a Pavoni lever machine -- the owner, who just wants it out of her home, says its an 8-cup machine. Unlike the Europiccolo, it has a pressure-gauge on top of the water-bar. If I want it for good, I can have it at very moderate cost.
    Under the machine it says its a Professional/A machine.
    It doesnt seem to have a thermostat to turn it on and off .. it cycles up in heat pretty quickly, and while you pull your espresso, the indicator cycles into the red.
    Does this mean that, unlike the Europiccolo, it should be turned off before pulling a shot? Is it safe to leave on? Any info or instructions available anywhere? I"ve found internet instructions for the Euro machine, but none for this one.
    HELP PLEASE.

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    Re: which Pavoni is this -- and help with use.

    Well, I think Ive answered this myself.
    Although Ive seen no reference anywhere to an 8-cup Professional model, this seems indeed to be a Professional -- maybe a rare smaller model than standard? And Ive found a Professional instruction manual on a US website.
    And although it does cycle up fast, I guess that just means start the espresso cycle just after it goes into the green on the pressure gauge, release steam for a few secs, and then pull when the gauge needle is pointing towards 12-noon.
    I guess itll just take practice from this point on .. and experimentation with grind .. I think the grind setting I use for my Atomic is probably a tad too fine and powdery for the Pavoni.

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    Re: which Pavoni is this -- and help with use.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony link=1146800658/0#1 date=1146805531
    Well, I think Ive answered this myself.
    Although Ive seen no reference anywhere to an 8-cup Professional model, this seems indeed to be a Professional -- maybe a rare smaller model than standard? And Ive found a Professional instruction manual on a US website.
    And although it does cycle up fast, I guess that just means start the espresso cycle just after it goes into the green on the pressure gauge, release steam for a few secs, and then pull when the gauge needle is pointing towards 12-noon.
    I guess itll just take practice from this point on .. and experimentation with grind .. I think the grind setting I use for my Atomic is probably a tad too fine and powdery for the Pavoni.
    You may have been here but they have a section on just LEVERS and there appears to be plent of help and guids on using these units.

    http://www.home-barista.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=33

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    Re: which Pavoni is this -- and help with use.

    So Anthony, you finally got hold of that La Pavoni. Great!

    About the grind: The Europiccola I sometimes use takes about the same grind as my Silvia, even perhaps slightly finer. From memory thats definitely as fine as the Atomic, probably finer. The proper grind (after a firm tamping) should pull about 20-35ml of darkish honey crema (all the way from start to finish, if the beans are fresh home roasted) in a single slow-ish pull of the lever. Pushing the lever fully up pre-infuses the coffee with water under whatever the boiler pressure is. After a few seconds in this position the first bit of coffee should meekly appear. At this point (or after about 8 seconds if you see no coffee) start pulling the lever down - it should give you fairly good resistance (enough for it to take around 15-20 seconds to get the lever all the way down). If using the double basket: when youve pulled the lever a quarter of the way down, push it back to the top and start pulling down again. This will give you the larger volume. Depending on the shape of the baskets you may need to grind slightly finer for the double.

    Exactly where on the gauge is optimal for pulling the shot is definitely something to experiment with. Top pressure on the gauge is probably steaming temp/pressure so that would be much too hot. Then again, a first shot may need to be pulled at a higher temp than subsequent shots because the group will likely be cooler.

    I hope you enjoy using and getting to know the lever machine as much as I do. They are truly beautiful machines.

    Have fun!

    Rob

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    Re: which Pavoni is this -- and help with use.

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    It sure is fun, and Im achieving pretty reasonable crema already on first-day. Thanks for the tips, guys .. now I only have to convince my wife that she should try it out as well :exclamation



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