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    is the sunbeam 5800 a decent machine?

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    Hey guys,
    im new to this.. but came accross this website whilst trying to find reviews etc on coffee machines as i dont know alot.. I really only want to spend around $400 and came across the Sunbeam EM5800 for $399. Looks like a decent enouch machine for the price...
    Any tips or advice?? Is this a decent coffee machine? Is a semi automatic the right way to go for a novice user? I have worked in hospitality for years so now how to use and clean a commercial coffee machine.I am not a massive coffee drinker but the machine will be well used several times a day at home.
    Any help would be really appreicated, should i buy this machine or go for a Delonghi or another type??
    Thanks heaps!
    Erin :) :)

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    Re: is the sunbeam 5800 a decent machine?

    Just spend an extra $200 and get the Sunbeam EM6900. Youll wish you had later down the track.

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    Re: is the sunbeam 5800 a decent machine?

    Whats the deal with the pressurized baskets? or are they not pressured? I keep reading around the place that ppl with sunbeams have had to replace their baskets with ones from Krups machines. Could anyone explain why? Is this a big issue? As u can tell im a newby!
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    Re: is the sunbeam 5800 a decent machine?

    Ok, basically any coffee that you make will suck unless you (a) use freshly roasted coffee and (b) grind that coffee freshly, per dose, using a proper, espresso-capable grinder that you will have to buy when you buy the machine.

    I think that the baskets in the cheaper machines are always pressurised. The idea is that by forcing the coffee through under a higher pressure, a fake foamy crema is created. This is done because the majority of people who buy the machines wont buy a grinder and will use stale, preground coffee that will not naturally produce lasting crema. (And will taste like crap) The problem is that when you are using freshly roasted and ground coffee, you are unable to get a correct grind setting with pressurised baskets. That is why people replace them.

    I had a quick look at the machine you mentioned. Looks like a bit of a ripoff to me. Surely its more or less the same machine internally as any of the cheaper sunbeams ... dont they have a thermoblock machine for less than $200? Definitely not getting your moneys worth. I would either get a cheap, cheap machine or get one thats pretty good quality. The 6900 looks pretty good for the money. If youre not prepared to spend it, Id look at the cheapest gaggia that you can find. Im not too convinced about all of their features, but they at least have a decent, commercial filter basket.

    Whether semi-auto is the right choice for you depends on what you want to get out of it. If youre happy with relatively bad coffee, arent prepared to put in a bit of time to learn and value convenience and cleanliness very highly, a Superautomatic machine is definitely the way to go. If you are prepared to do some work and put in some effort, a semi auto is the way to go. But remember that with a semi auto you will need a decent grinder, a tamper and a knockbox as well. If none of these options meet your requirements, Id suggest buying a decent grinder and fresh coffee and just having plunger coffee.

    The cheapest decent grinder for espresso, before you ask and IMHO, is the Iberital Challenge, which should be buyable for around $240.

    Hope that helps,

    Luca

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    Re: is the sunbeam 5800 a decent machine?

    Its an OK machine. FWIW I got mine for $315 from The Good Guys... Its regularly advertised at $349 at many places.

    Since Ive begun home roasting and bought a grinder (definitely budget for a good grinder for yourself, eg the Sunbeam EM0480), Ive begun tweaking the machine a bit - the baskets can be modified to depressurise them (see my "work in progress" thread), and the plastic liner in the portafilter removed (it traps old stale oils), and the result is pretty nice - good, real crema can be had, not the pressurised foam luca mentions.

    I think theres a little more going on inside the 5800 than the cheaper Sunbeam machines. The literature on their website suggests that the thermal stability of this model (and the 6900) is better controlled than the cheaper models. I believe the thermoblock is also stainless steel lined, which should help minimise corrosion.

    The semi-auto dosing is a nice newbie feature, but if you can learn judge 30 or 60ml nicely, or watch the pour for when it starts to blond, then its not a major issue. My fiance probably couldnt though, so it no doubt helps her...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ezzy link=1146826922/0#2 date=1146829815
    Whats the deal with the pressurized baskets? or are they not pressured? I keep reading around the place that ppl with sunbeams have had to replace their baskets with ones from Krups machines. Could anyone explain why? Is this a big issue? As u can tell im a newby!
    Ta
    Erin

    You dont have to replace them, but if you do you will get better results with a little effort.

    I hated the standard baskets as any shot I tried was just too fast and I was unable to adjust my grind or tamp to get what I wanted. Went to the right Krups basket and I have much better control and get a good shot. Not the best around but for the system I have the final taste is more than ok.



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