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    Best of the cheaper tampers?

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    As much as I would LOVE a forest green Pullman tamper :) I just cant afford it :(

    So what is the best of the cheaper tampers?

    Sorry forgot to add that Im pretty sure it will be 49mm, this size being harder to find.

    Ive been reading and searching and reading both here on CS and all the other websites I can find but am just going around in circles.

    Its stupid I think to myself whats an extra $50 odd for something that will help make the coffee experience better!

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    Re: Best of the cheaper tampers?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3E252C3D283E25242B39283F4D0 link=1289713447/0#0 date=1289713447
    As much as I would LOVE a forest green Pullman tamper :) I just cant afford it :(

    So what is the best of the cheaper tampers?

    Ive been reading and searching and reading both here on CS and all the other websites I can find but am just going around in circles.

    Its stupid I think to myself whats an extra $50 odd for something that will help make the coffee experience better!

    ARGH
    Hi Shapeshifter

    Have a look over http://shop.talkcoffee.com.au/collections/types?q=Tampers

    We have a few Rattleware left at $40 and at $85, the Bogav outpunches pretty much anything up to about $130 in my opinion.

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    Re: Best of the cheaper tampers?

    Hi Chris, thanks for that but I need a 49mm tamper.

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    Re: Best of the cheaper tampers?

    Hi Shapeshifter,

    We have a 49mm, 304 stainless base, anodised handle and a choice of colours.

    Jetblack Tampers

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    Re: Best of the cheaper tampers?

    The Rattleware fit in the hand nicely (used to have a 53mm) and if you know someone (6 pack job or a bag of beans) who has a lathe then $40 + post from Chris is cheap for a good tamper.

    Some of the cheapies I have had a play with feel bad to hold which will make them a pain to use so the best bet is to have a play in real life.

    A very happy owner of 4 Pullman Tampers *::)

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    Oh well I just figured out that its not relevant anyway, the Pullman I want isnt available in the size I need. *So cheaper version it is anyway I had a laugh.

    Thanks Charlie, I think Ill wait until I come down to Sydney (you are the closest to my parents place) in the next few weeks or so and come and have a play and buy some other things Im wanting :)

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    Re: Best of the cheaper tampers?

    as far as Im concerned.. As long as it fits your basket well (nice and snug), has a good tamping surface and is comfortable to use, it doesnt matter whether its $20 or $200 ::)

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    Re: Best of the cheaper tampers?

    kotaro, thats pretty much what I thought to start off with, then I saw all the pretty colours and that forest green is just perfect :) I do love my colours.

    Anyway when discussing this with my OH he pretty much said the same thing, why spend more money on something that does the same thing (Ive spent 2 years looking for the right knifes and forks that had the correct balance so I figure its a little like that), did I mention the colours ;D

    I read somewhere someone saying that their friend uses his thumbs to tamp and it was a fantastic espresso.

    All a learn experience so I dont mind using the plastic tamp with the Presso before I advance to a metal one :)

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    Re: Best of the cheaper tampers?

    Quote Originally Posted by 75716A7F6C711E0 link=1289713447/6#6 date=1289730695
    as far as Im concerned.. As long as it fits your basket well (nice and snug), has a good tamping surface and is comfortable to use, it doesnt matter whether its $20 or $200 *::)
    Im with you on that one...

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    Re: Best of the cheaper tampers?

    Quote Originally Posted by 29323B2A3F2932333C2E3F285A0 link=1289713447/7#7 date=1289731188
    then I saw all the pretty colours and that forest green is just perfect :)
    haha yeh, well there is that too. *;D
    suppose I cant really comment becuase I just forked out for a pretty tamp when I already had a perfectly good one.
    I think, if youre still using the stock plastic tamp, thats enough exscuse to go for a better one. *And i guess, its the sort of thing that you should only really need to buy once. *(unless you find yourself acquiring an e61 group machine - which prolly warrents an extra $100 budget for a tamp anyway).

    so there you go, Ive successfully confused the both of us in arguing both ways.

    Best advice I can give is to take your basket along to a few shops and physically put the tamp in, buy the one that fits best :) .. you can always paint it green if you must :P *;)

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    Re: Best of the cheaper tampers?

    Quote Originally Posted by 2C373E2F3A2C3736392B3A2D5F0 link=1289713447/2#2 date=1289715094
    Hi Chris, thanks for that but I need a 49mm tamper.
    Whoops....Speed skimming will catch you out every time.... :-[

    One thing that I forgot to mention is that Bogav stock is 100% local, being manufactured in the eastern burbs of Melbourne. The Assassin is a heap cheaper than other 316 stainless adjustable options.

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    I had a laugh Chris the best of us do it too :)

    Haha kotaro that I can do and great suggestion about the basket, I will make sure I do that too, although I have got confirmation from Greg at Presso that its definitely a 49mm tamper that is needed.

    I didnt mean to make myself sound like Ive never got money for good things but I do have set budgets and had the amounts set out for the BeanBay beans and grinder (the Presso being a birthday present from my OH).

    I had already completely over extended in my original thoughts of spending up to $1k, phew Im so glad I kept reading and found a way to get into the swing of things without spending a fortune (to me anyway) :)

    We did have access to a lathe but unfortunately that access is now denied, for how long we dont know...

    Anyway waffling, thanks everyone for all your suggestions and will look forward to having a play in Cremorne in a little while :)

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    Re: Best of the cheaper tampers?

    To balance the equation, the 316 adjustable option fairly obviously being referred to in the post two above is likewise manufactured in Australia and in fact has Product of Australia endorsement as being 100% Australian. Its definitely more expensive, but the bottom line with that product is that its designed to a specification, not a price.

    * its adjustable with three contoured stainless steel spacers
    * its perfectly balanced
    * has a rubber insert into the base for extra comfort
    * has a custom-sized base to suit whatever machine you need (at this time only down to 57mm)
    * can be supplied with matched filter baskets if required
    * each one has a serial number in case you ever need another one made to the same spec
    * comes in a whole range of different colours and materials
    * various custom engraving options available

    Does that make it the perfect tamper? Theres no such thing! There are lots of well-made tampers which have different features which appeal to different people. So by all means sing the praises of whichever product floats your boat (or business), but dont imply a one-dimensioned comparison is the whole picture. "xyz is a heap cheaper but by the way it lacks feature A, B and C" would be a fairer comment but I doubt well be reading that anytime soon.

    shapeshifter, 49mm Baristas should be around in the first quarter of next year. The Barista was always designed as a commercial product and at the time I designed it there were other high-end products on the market which catered for the smaller sizes so I chose to not compromise other aspects of its design for the sake of one or two machines which used smaller baskets. Those other products are gone now so were getting a smaller rubber insert moulded up which will allow us to cater for the full range of sizes in the Barista, as we can with the Deluxe. 49 will normally fit a Presso, but my own Presso gets a better fit with a tamper thats a touch bigger than that.

    Might like to grab a cheapie in the meantime and check back early next year.

    Greg

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    Re: Best of the cheaper tampers?

    Quote Originally Posted by 32372E2E2F232C420 link=1289713447/12#12 date=1289896841
    To balance the equation, the 316 adjustable option fairly obviously being referred to in the post two above is likewise manufactured in Australia and in fact has Product of Australia endorsement as being 100% Australian. Its definitely more expensive, but the bottom line with that product is that its designed to a specification, not a price.
    If I understand correctly Greg, youre suggesting that the Bogav tampers design is not founded upon a set of specifications, but rather a price point.

    If so, Id appreciate it if you could clarify how you came to that conclusion?


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    Re: Best of the cheaper tampers?

    Not at all Dennis. I can only speak for my own products, and I can say I made a conscious decision with the Barista to include certain features which I knew would push up the price. I.e. I chose a particular specification at the expense of a low price. Others may well have wanted a different specification which allowed for a lower price, but it doesnt mean price was their sole object. Nor however does it follow that simply because a certain product is cheaper, that features on a more expensive product should be ignored and only the higher price tag referred to.

    Without having seen one in the flesh, it sounds as though Gavins done a great job with his tampers and Im happy to recommend them to people wanting a tamper with a different spec to ours (just as Ive recommended Reg Barber, Coffeelab and others in the past). Its just a pity this respect doesnt normally run both ways.

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    Re: Best of the cheaper tampers?

    Thanks for your explanation Greg.

    It just goes to show that what is written can at times be interpreted incorrectly. ;)

    And youre right...Gavin has done a great job! :)


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    Re: Best of the cheaper tampers?

    ::) Taking the looooong route and bringing this thread back on topic, shapeshifter was looking for an inexpensive 49mm tamper and has found something which suits at Jetblack...

    Seems to me he has solved his problem without the need for a whole heap of marketing information. :-?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13262B2C18042821212222470 link=1289713447/16#16 date=1289900636
    Seems to me he has solved his problem without the need for a whole heap of marketing information
    I would have thought Gregs post a fair and balanced reply detailing the plans for future models of the barista being available in smaller sizes of which most here would have been unaware. While not as cheap as the OP might like it is available in the colour [s]he[/s] she wanted and colour is important ::)

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    Re: Best of the cheaper tampers?

    giggled like a schoolgirl bean and TC, he is actually a she, and yes you are right, although this post went a little south Im glad that it did as I would never have found out about Gregs new tampers and it gives me time to save up for one :) and yes colour is very important ;D

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    Re: Best of the cheaper tampers?

    Quote Originally Posted by 667D746570667D7C73617067150 link=1289713447/18#18 date=1289904399
    actually a she
    :-[ oops sorry about that in that case colour ir VERY important ;)

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    Re: Best of the cheaper tampers?

    Dont want to bring this out of topic again, but just feel that I need to quickly clarify something:

    Its just a pity this respect doesnt normally run both ways.
    Greg, I can assure you that in this case it does.

    glad you found a solution, shapeshifter. :)


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    Re: Best of the cheaper tampers?

    and also,

    And youre right...Gavin has done a great job! Smiley
    Cheers, guys! ;D

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    Re: Best of the cheaper tampers?

    Quote Originally Posted by 504B425346504B4A45574651230 link=1289713447/7#7 date=1289731188
    I read somewhere someone saying that their friend uses his thumbs to tamp and it was a fantastic espresso.
    Thats interesting.

    I can laugh, but i am gonna give that a go for sh!ts and giggles.

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    Re: Best of the cheaper tampers?

    On reflection, I think the best of the cheaper tampers is no tamper whatsoever...Get the dose right, even out the distribution and then load away...

    It worked for Giancarlo *;)

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    Re: Best of the cheaper tampers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 03363B3C08143831313232570 link=1289713447/23#23 date=1290936990
    On reflection, I think the best of the cheaper tampers is no tamper whatsoever...Get the dose right, even out the distribution and then load away...

    It worked for Giancarlo *;)
    Yes, well, we all know that the tamper was not invented to make a better extraction, but to avoid sloppy pucks. ;D



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