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    which machine?

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Hi,

    As I have a sunbeam cafe crema (better than drip or plunger at least!) and a delonghi grinder (same as solis 166?) I want to upgrade. I just want to know if the sivia is the best option under $1000 and what grinder is best as I cant spend over $1000 total for machine and grinder. I will keep checking the sales in case anyone sells theirs. Thanks for your help.
    ps. I do buy fresh beans at least, Merlo is the brand.

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    Re: which machine?

    Well we get great coffees from our Silvia. She is a little painful if you need to do more than 4 but that is a minor issue.

    Silvia has a well deserved and HUGE following here and on many other sites like CoffeeGeek.

    Our upgrade path was the same (Identical actually) as what you were looking at and we were not disapointed. Initially we had the Delonghi and the Silvia and got very acceptable coffees. When we could afford it we got the Rocky Dosserless and things were even better.

    Its an option IMHO the Silvia is the best machine in its class tho some would argue the Gaggia Classic holds the thrown, each to thier own I guess. While I havent tried every espresso machine every where. I beleive there are enough satisfied user reviews on many web sites that would support this. Just check out www.coffeegeek.com or www.wholelattellove.com .

    Rich

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    Re: which machine?

    Thanks Rich, did you modify your delonghi for use with the silvia?

    Scott

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    Re: which machine?

    yes but it did the job till we could afford the Rocky.

    I should clarify the Silvia being painful thing if you have to make more than 4 Latté it can take a while as Silvia is a single boiler machine. *You can work around this minor issue but it will take a bit of time. BUt as SIlvia, from what I under stand has the biggest boiler in its class (Under $800) it probably isnt as painful as most other machine with a smaller boiler. If you think about it tho to make 6 latté is something Silvia isnt designed for. ;) If you need to do that regularly then a HX machine would be better suited but thats going to be outside your budget.

    If you are pulling straight espressos then there isnt too much of a prob.

    Silvias steaming is very good on one web site ive seen "Enough steam to drive a locomotive" comments. I never have a problem steaming milk or getting that Microfoam. You can turn the milk to custard if you wanted. Which is too thick.

    Cheers
    Rich

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    Re: which machine?

    Behmor Brazen - $249 - Free Freight
    As a new Silvia owner (moved up from the "similar" Imat Junior) I can attest that Silvia is a great machine for around the $650 price point and being pretty much the hands on type of person I am who drinks about 3 espressos a day and makes the odd latte for no more than about 3 people I love er to bits and wouldnt change a thing unless I win tatts. ;D

    "However" shes a little demanding in respect to beans, grind, tamp, ground coffee volume and needs more or less to be temp surfed for optimum results. Get one of these variables wrong and basically she s***s in your eye :-/ ... However if all the planets align the espresso is nothing short of brilliant. ;D

    My take on the whole thing would be. If youre that way inclined Silv is best at that price. If you just like the odd stress-free, undemanding espresso and prefer more milk-based drinks get yourself a Solis SL70 ($500) which is a little cheaper, more forgiving and steams milk almost as well as the Silvia from what Ive read.

    The Solis also allows you to pair up with your existing grinder which may or may not endure a Silvia who needs a grinder at a minimum of $250. I use the Lux which works well enough but Rocky is more well suited for the job.

    If you have to make milk-based drinks for a lot of people, often you may have to think outside the square a little. Then spend your money on a good grinder like a Mazzer which is the zenith and upgrade-proof, pocket your $350 or so change (you said you had a budget of $1K) and start saving for a HX machine which start at a bare minimum of about $1500, though that said theres a retailer at the moment (I think) selling the Nuova Simonelli Oscar for around the 1 grand mark, which is basically an entry-level HX machine with a plastic body. Allows you the luxury of being able to brew and steam (lots) at the same time.

    Choices are endless but Im sure youll be happy with whatever path you choose. Should you decide on Siliva at least you know theres plenty of us to guide you on your way. ;)

    Hope this helps ...

    Warren -



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