Many, myself included, use Gregs tampers (http://www.coffeetamper.com.au/). They are nice to look at, great to use and Greg is fantastic to deal with.
Im desperately wanting to replace my crappy plastic tamper that came with my Gaggia Classic.
Ive been looking around Bris for sometime and cannot find one Im happy with or the right size all or too small etc.
Can anyone recommend a supplier (pref in Aust) that can provide a quality (not over the top) tamper to suit my 58mm portafilter?
Many, myself included, use Gregs tampers (http://www.coffeetamper.com.au/). They are nice to look at, great to use and Greg is fantastic to deal with.
You could also contact John Doyle (aka Pinot) on this site. He has some nice stainless steel Tampers that Im sure he could send to you.
Have to second the others where Gregs Tampers are concerned... high quality, great service and a unique product. Ive got two of them.
Ill also recommend the Greg Pullman product.
I have one for my Silvia and I bought one for my brother-in-law as a gift for his Sunbeam Machine.
Mines great. My brother-in-law loves his. Reckons it makes a great difference even with the cheap machine.
I also cant recommend Greg Pullman highly enough. He makes a beautiful tamper. A friend of mine saw my GP tamper and also had to have one for his La Cimbali Jnr.
Hi, this is my first post to this forum and Id just like to add another opinion on the tamper issue.
I certainly am in favour of buying Australian, but people should also check out the Reg Barber tampers from Canada, especially since they are much the same price as Gregs tampers, famous the world over for their incredible quality and beauty, and they deliver quickly and cheaply ($CAN15 cheap considering the air postage).
I recently got one custom made to fit my Pavoni Europiccola filter baskets (49mm) and it cost $AUS80 door to door.
Another vote for Greg Pullmans tampers. They are not only extremely good for tamping, they look great and each one is individual. Its like having a piece of art to sit on top of Silvia.
This is a good point. I have been considering a Reg Barber.Originally Posted by chopinhauer link=1109146620/0#7 date=1109211444
As soon as I come up with artwork I am happy with for the top of the tamper ($15 extra) - I am going to take the plunge.
as a sponsor to the site please allow me to advise that my company can also supply quality tampers.
At the moment I have 2 types:
a) polished aluminium;
b) polished stainless steel.
Both offer understated, solid functionality and we use them with commercial espresso machines. There is no timber, or any colouration, just simple, smooth, polished "white" metal.
Delivery is immediate. For details please contact through the little contact icons under my name at top LHS of this post!
sienna told me they sell reg barbers for $60aud, they only have ones with the sienna logo.
I use a solid ss one which I guess is like the ones fc sell which works a treat. Even though the wood top may look classier the solid ss certainly has an indestructible feel to it and is great for cleaning.
btw even a vegemite jar will work much better than the plastic tampers
If Sienna sell Reg Barber tampers, then they are not advertised on their internet site.
In any case, I imagine that most tampers they sell would be the standard 57 or 58mm size.
One needs to buy from Reg Barber directly if one needs a tamper for a non-standard filter basket such as those used by Pavoni and Elektra lever machines. Also RB have a myriad of styles and materials to choose from, as well as a choice between flat and convex bases.
I saw a little stubby 58mm one (SS) in the Cuisine World for $25, so while not a piece of art, it was certinly a piece of steel.
How much are those two you have FB?
The various wooden handles look great.
However, I wonder if they comply with the relevant Food Standards???? I remember reading something about varnished wood products and food.......
Like FRESH, Ill stick to the polished aluminium or stainless steel.
Hi John,Originally Posted by pinot link=1109146620/0#14 date=1109301552
I agree with you regarding porous materials used in food preparation areas however, Greg Pullmans Tampers use high denisity Jarrah and they are finished with an oil finish, not varnish. When you consider how many kitchen utensils and implements use wooden handles, bases or are entirely made from wood, I dont think an unvarnished wooden handled Tamper is an issue.
Another thing to keep in mind, each GP Tamper is unique and made by hand and if you factor that into the price you are getting not only a bargain but a work of art... not something thats been churned out by machines in the hundreds or thousands.
Just my $0.02 worth.
Also bear in mind John that none of the wood actually physically touches the coffee.
Pullman tampers rock. :) Ive also got a nice one from Sienna Coffee which has the same handle as Silvias P/F. Make a nice couple.
We had our Tamper made from a solid lump of Brass one end has a convex and the other end a concave both at about 2mm weiging in at just over 1170g. No pressure is ever used except for the weight of the Tamper itself.... The ability of the Tamper to evenly distribute its weight is very important as many of you already know. We have found that the consistency from a good Tamper is Parramount to a good extraction, I would even go as far to say that the quality of the grind is just as important as the Tamping process, any thoughts from you all about this?
FB, I think having a heavy tamper (1.2kg is very heavy) is a great idea. At least you know the tamping side of things (i.e. downward pressure) will always be the same. This is one of many variables that is pretty much controlled.Originally Posted by FrenchBean link=1109146620/15#17 date=1109316917
On the other hand.....you need a bit more room than others to store the beast.
It takes no more room than any other Tamper I have seen. 85mm high 58mmm dia.
Allowing for the fact that it is solid Brass.... the weight is a lot. Ive use a few SS Tampers and they have all been good, but I am bised becasue I know mine is a one of a kind.
My 17yo son has decided he likes making my coffees and he has been taught well.... and when he first strted out he used our other tampers but the consistency was not the best, but with the Brass one it is certainly there. Only thing I need now is someone to feed me Grapes whilst I lay down and thing will be pretty much perfect...I had a laugh
I definitely prefer a stainless steel base due to the weight.
Next option is convex or flat base. People tend to be pretty polarised on this. I own both types and for me I prefer the curved as I seem to get a firmer edges.
Next option is handle length. The shape of the end may be flat or a ball. The width and length of the handle affects the comfort of the tamper. For big hands go with a longer tamper.
My favourite tamper is a convex Pro Tamp from Espresso Parts http://www.espressoparts.com/index.p...43/1000/3006SS (I bought an older model that is one piece but otherwise the same).
Most tampers cost a lot more than the raw materials and are considered a bit of an extravagence that lasts forever so splurge within your budget.
My father inlaw made me one of the best tampers Ive ever seen or used, but I might be biased :). I showed him some photos of Reg Barber tamps and the Deluxe Lava Pro and being an old metal machinist, he turned a 58mm head out of big chunk of stainless he had lying around the shed. A friend of his lathed the handle and voila.
I also ended up buying a Deluxe Lava and the Stainless Pro Tamp from Espressoparts.com. I ordered one of them in a convex base. The handles and heads easily unscrew so you can interchange convex for flat to suit your requirements.
The hard black stuff on the end of the Pro Tamp is great. You can tap the side of the portafilter with leaving a mark. The Lava Deluxe is less sturdy and has burred up a bit.
All of these tampers have been great. I think as long as you get the correct diameter for your basket as a basis then let your sense of feel and aesthetics take over youll be fine.
Professional baristas would probably have differing criteria for tamps that get used to make hundreds of coffees a day. The couple Ive spoken to have mentioned a preference for a lighter tamper to lower fatigue and enhance feel for the compression of the ground coffee.
I think I have an unhealthy attraction to tampers... :) I want to get an Espro tamp next, then an Impod, then a Reg Barber, and then...
"...people should also check out the Reg Barber tampers from Canada, especially since they are much the same price as Gregs tampers, famous the world over for their incredible quality and beauty, and they deliver quickly and cheaply ($CAN15 cheap considering the air postage).
I recently got one custom made to fit my Pavoni Europiccola filter baskets (49mm) and it cost $AUS80 door to door."
Reg certainly has been around for a while and has a following. However one of my tampers will cost you $AUD66.95 to the door in 3-5 working days. The difference isnt significant (20%, or $13), but its worth noting. After that, it comes down to the functionality of the units (heres as good a place as any to ask) and the aesthetics, which only you can decide.
Pinot: thats right, the handle is oiled hardwood, not varnished pine or similar, and it shouldnt normally touch the coffee (if it does, try turning it up the other way :)). There are some solid wood tampers out there, and what youve mentioned is an issue with them, and also the fact that they can crack over time from being left in direct contact with the hot machine. This is not as much of an issue with my units on account of no direct contact from the wood to the machine, and also the healthy doses of oil they get to ensure they stay supple.
This is my homemade tamper, made from scrap 18 ml thick kiln-dried hardwood and part of an old cricket stump.
The top, tapered wood is there to support the handle which goes right through it, and then attaches to the bottom one with dowel. Beats the plastic Silvia one.
Sorry about the quality.
Ed as you can see it is no bigger than any other Tamper. The matchbox gives you the scale.
1170g in weight... 2mm convex and concave ends
Very Cool tamper FB, slick shape too.
Is it polished brass or chrome over the brass?
(hard to tell on my lcd screen)
..and do you use the concave or convex end?
I use the Concave as its depth is supposed to be 2mm but it ended up being about 1.5mm which is basically flat over the 58mm surface area...
We just inser it into the Groupcup and twist 2-3 times and remove it.. never adding any pressure and we get consistant shots...
We like it because it is not only an attractive item but also highly practical and a 1 of a kind.
Well, it took a little while, but the father in law came good with a mate who knows a friend, who owed a favour... ;D
58.3mm. Excellent bit of gear.
I can not understand why Ranchilio dont supply a better tamper, even if it just fitted across the basket better.
My Giotto that costs around 3 times as much as the Silvia came with the same kind of crappy plastic tamp, although it was a slightly better fit than the Silvia one.
I only used it once out of academic interest and the rough top precluded getting a good polish on the top of the ground coffee.
I guess a reasonable tamp costs real money and is a matter of taste so they probably figure theyll let the buyer sort that out for themselves.
Boris that small black plastic Tamper is a mass produced one, I have seen heaps of them around....... its just a starter one for you... I wonder how many people actually continue to use them.....
Seems like we both have Tampers that Tim the Toolman (Home improvments TV show)would like......just thinking of his grunted laugh....I had a laugh
Theres just something special about your own tamper....... Originality is a special thing
I guess I can recommend my tamper. It took three prototypes, 1 year and a hell of a lot of cash to develop. You can check it out at www.coffeelabdesign.com. There have been a few changes to it that dont appear on the site. The translucent rubber material has been changed for a more durable material. It will still be coloured, just not translucent. I am finalizing the new colours at the moment and they will be ready in a few weeks. I have also added a few removable collars to the handle so it is now height adjustable to three different heights. The ergonomics and the style of this tamper are superb, even if I say so myself. It is the only tamper on the market with soft rubber grips and the height adjustable feature. Im kinda proud of that. As a working barista I pump out a lot of coffee with this baby and I couldnt recommend it more highly. I dont say that because I developed it, I say it because I use it every day. Some people say it is expensive. I say the Impod at $300 is expensive. I have had to set that price because I wanted it made in Australia, not a sweatshop in China, and the manufacturing process of itself is expensive. My advice to anyone buying a tamper is to look for the guy who has put love and passion in to making his tamper. Folks such as Reg Barber or Bill Pullman definately seem to fit in to that category. Good luck with your search.
Is there something wrong with my system or are there no pix of the tamper on your website?Originally Posted by coffeelab link=1109146620/30#30 date=1114156374
Ive been using a Greg Pullman Tamper for quite some time now and can highly recommend them as a high quality, effective and ergonomic design.
Just recently bought a new handle, one of the Offset Chequerboard Designs, and it is really an impressive piece of work. Check them out here..... http://tinyurl.com/8a57e.
I ordered a Reg Barber one afte seeing one at our Perth Cafe Day.
I decided on one with a rosewood handle and a copper base as I thought it would be different. The colour also stands out from the other stainless steel background.
It is really down to handle shape and aesthetics. If it looks good and feels good in the hand (and its the right diameter of course) then it should work.
Some of them like the Reg Barber you can get Rancilio or whatever you want (if you provide the artwork) inlaid in the top of the handle (extra $15).
It is funny how such a small thing is so important to people but then you use them each time you make coffee. I have just a plain aluminium one at the moment and that was a huge improvement after the plastic one I had.
Hello again Ron,
The KG100 is a rebadged Solis 166 grinder from memory and for most purposes do a reasonable job with a quite good quality burr set. It should be up to the job for all but the Silvia and upwards because of the need to grind very finely and consistently for professional type Groups and PFs.
When your CFO starts to recognise the quality of brews you start producing, Im sure she will understand the need for a good quality grinder. Makes a hell of a difference to the quality of the brews you can produce and if you extend that into roasting your own beans at home, well, youre well on your way to ongoing coffee nirvana.
Re the Tamper. Id say go for it, if youve got a lathe and bar-stock at home. Apart from the obvious need to make the business end the right size to suit your PF Basket(s), the top of the handle needs to be a comfortable shape and size to make it easy to repeatedly apply the required tamping force. After all, once friends, neighbours and relies realise how good the coffee is at your place, youre going to be kept busy :D.
All the best Ron and happy brewing,
Originally Posted by Mal link=1109146620/30#32 date=1120397603
Hi Mal, Yes I had a look at Gregs tampers - very, very nice. But I think Id be shot if I bought one at the moment. Ive got a lathe and some aluminium round barstock so I may have to turn up a tamper of my own. I couldnt make a stainless steel one - my machining skill and my lathe arent up to it - so Ill upgrade later on.
I bought a Delonghi KG100 grinder today and that caused some angst. I was looking for a Solis Maestro but unfortunately it was out of my price range. Im hoping the KG100 will do the job for my domestic machine.
Hi Ron and Mal,
I am in exactly that position with my DeLonghi KG100 grinder...
I bought a Giotto last week and have found that even on the finest setting and modifying the grinder (which is an adjustment to the zero point), that it still is not fine enough and I have to tamp relatively heavy to slow the shot time. Even modifying it by only one step the burrs are now just touching - but it still isnt fine enough.
So, I am about to most likely buy a Mazzer Mini grinder to suit the machine and leave the DeLonghi for my eldest daughters decaffeinated beans : )
Oh - and a "proper" tamper after a week of using the plastic undersized thingy that came with the Giotto (the supplier didnt have any tamps in stock at the time of purchase).
Yes, the KG100 is the Solis 166 (which I didnt know until I read the Choice magazine review). I had been reluctant to buy it based on some reviews Id read. But other reviews gave it a positive write-up.
Ahh. Well, the first few cups of coffee made with the new grinders coffee have been spectacularly unsuccessful. In my defence, I havent had much chance to play with it since buying it yesterday - I had to go to work an hour after getting it home - and they were plunger coffees.Originally Posted by Mal link=1109146620/30#35 date=1120402901
Ill make a tamper up this week. Having read the thread on equipment, Ill go there and add my details.
No worries Ron,
Let us know how you get on and whether we can be of any help.
Re upgrading from your KG100 grinder. I dont know that you have to go as far as the Mazzer Mini to get a great quality grinder but hey, if youve got the money, go for it. You certainly havent skimped on the quality of your espresso machine, the Giotto is way up there with the best of them and if you make lots of milk based drinks, youll never look back.
I spose when it comes right down to it, if youve already got the Giotto, a Mazzer Mini would definitely be a great partner for it, and look the part too 8).
Once youve upgraded your grinder, the KG100 will definitely be worth hanging on to for other brewing methods, such as Drip, Plunger or Moka Pot so as a last resort, you would still be able to enjoy a pretty good coffee even if not via the courtesy of the Giotto/MM combo. Happy brewing,
I finally got my Reg Barber tamper today. It weights 390grams which is one of the reason I wanted the base to be copper. The handle is made of African Rosewood.
The picture from the web doesnt really do it justice.
Anyway, nice to have and it fits the portafilter on the Silvia perfectly.
Hi all, I was checking out the chris coffee site and saw an Espro automatic tamper. It apparently clicks when you hit the magic 30lb/15kg tamp pressure. I guess that the mechanism is similar to a torque wrench, only its not adjustable. Would this tamper be of any benefit, or is it just a wank?
All the best,
I reckon, anything that takes the guess work out has to be a good thing. *Less variables.
I havent seen that one yet. *
Got a website or a picture?
The Sunbeam EM6900 comes with a very nice tamper. ;)
Assumming the tamper on it is a good fit for your portafilter theyre nice to have as they assure you of consistant shot-to-shot tamping.
Java "Gotta love a toy thats good at what it does" phile
Ive got an Espro. They are a really good training tool but not my personal favourite for day to day use. Not sure why exactly, its nicely made, good finish etc. Kinda pricey at around $100 Australian plus postage. I had high hopes, and went to a fair bit of trouble to track one down, but now I dont often use it.
I think they would be good as a training tool for new staff at cafes, or other business that serve coffee. From my own observations most PBTC dont put much force behind their tamp, if they use a tamper at all.
Monti, I dont have a picture available, and I dont know if I would be allowed to put a link to their site here.
All the best,
We are actualy in the process of designing (well at least thinking about) a CoffeeSnobs tamp.
What are the features that you like in your current tamp?
What weight do you think "feels right for you"?
What material do you prefer it to be made of?
What else can you add to the design?
Hhhhmmm.....a top that fills a big hand.
The heavier the better.
Something dense and hefty that is resistant to nicks and dings.
Tamp depth lines and a pressure gauge? ;D ;D
Java "Invent away!" phile
a very good question.
Whilst we sell some very solid, heavy tampers that are really great talking points or mantle piece items, they are ....heavy items to use and if I were working the machine in a cafe, my personal preference would be NOT to use one of these cumbersome but attractive units with which to tamp coffee after coffee over the period of a shift...and over a period of years.
These artefacts have artistic, and "snob" appeal. Fine I accept that, but as straight workhorses...I dunno.
Absolutely the best tamper I have ever used, and my feelings on this are purely from a work management / "human resources" point of view, is a PLASTIC (yes plastic) tamper that IS shaped and sized correctly.
It is several years old (possibly a good 30) and it is nothing more than 7mm thick black plastic tamping "face", 58mm in diameter for the regular sized generic filters stamped out by the million, with a just slightly curved face that follows the shape of the generic showers used on E61 groups, also stamped out by the million.
The thickness of the tamping face is just so, that when the correct amout of coffee has been tamped into the filter, the back face of the tamping head is about even with the top of the filter.
In the middle of this and on the back side, the plastic is thickened to accept a threaded hole into which a 2 1/2 inch ( sorry, mixing imperial and metric...cant help marself) aluminium dowel about 1/4 inch in diameter, is screwed.
The other end is the same except the plastic top is not as big as the lower tamper, so it fits nicely into the palm of your hand.
Its construction is light but sturdy, properly designed for the application, and much less likely give you RSI if used over prolonged periods. It was manufactured for a well known espresso machine manufacturer of yesteryear.
I hold on to this old tamper as if my life depends on it, and it still comes out for every coffee class and every time I make myself a cuppa. And as soon as Im finished, it gets spirited away.
If I were to buy my own coffeesnobs tamper, I would want it to be a properly designed professional work horse, not a heavy metallic *mantleshelf piece that you cannot tap the group cup with for fear of damaging either of the tamper, or the group cup. *Yeah yeah I know some put rubber ends, or wooden handles on the end of these fine, heavy *metallic works of art, but I wouldnt want to damage a fine piece of timber with my tapping, and I am simply putting *another point of view.
You can ofcourse etch (laser?) "CoffeeSnobs" name/artwork onto the upwards facing face of my/your tamper.
Mind you, the plastic tamping face on my coffee press could just as easily be replaced with some kind of similar sized metal face...and it would still do the job perfectly, but I guess it would not satisfy the bigger and heavier and more "solid" and more shiny is better brigade.
Thats a good point as I really like my convex stainless steel Pro Tamp but it might become a bit of a workout if I were making many cups in a day. I dont have an issue with tapping the basket though as it easly flips in my hand so I can use the top of the handle to tap the rim and nicely settles the grinds.Originally Posted by Fresh_Coffee link=1109146620/45#47 date=1121502836
I saw FC use his plastic tamper recently and it did a good job, although it looked a little small for my hands which is why I really like the tall handle on my tamper.
Im not sure there is a market for yet another tamper unless it is particularly different in some way as there are plenty of functional and arty choices out there already. I bought a wood handled tamper for a friend but prefer my single chunk of steel for my own use.
Can we discuss the merits of flat vs US convex vs Euro convex tampers now? ;) 8)
Hi all! This is my first post here.
Im just about to order my first espresso setup (a Silvia and a Rocky), and Im thinking that an Espro tamper will be a good training aid for me. Do any suppliers in Australia carry the Espro tamper? Where did you track yours down, sharkboy?