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    what is the ugliest home/pro machine ??? poll

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    From reading everyone has a different view on looks for home machine.

    some people dont care on looks like cars.

    it works, does what i want and its cheap.

    forgetting quality, of coffee, etc, better hoses, fittings etc.

    what do people think is the top 5 or 10 ugly machines for sale these days.

    S1 ??

    I would say the S1 is an ugly machine. once again im not picking on its performance, just peoples opinion on looks.

    any takers on ugly votes of machines //

    my friend has an old 2 group rancilio, he thinks it looks disgusting, but it never breaks down and works.

    Elektra Sixties Classic with pressed brass panels. thats ugly.............


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    I am going to get in trouble for this, but I reckon the ever loved Silvia has to be in the top ten.

    It is just a square box with no design cues at all. It has a skinny wand, a horrendous steam knob that make it look like a cheap domestic appliance from 10 years ago.

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    I suppose I am always going to be Grateful to those who raised me from when I was young.
    These are few few coments I have learnt to live with

    “Beauty is in the eye of the beholder” :o
    “Beauty is only skin deep” ::)
    “What you have is what you’ve got” :-/

    I think that kind of says it all doesn’t it ;)

    To all those who are either ugly or have ugly machines, your welcome to join the club… ;D I had a laugh

    FB :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrenchBean link=1122270079/0#2 date=1122274974
    I suppose I am always going to be Grateful to those who raised me from when I was young.
    These are few few coments I have learnt to live with

    “Beauty is in the eye of the beholder” :o
    “Beauty is only skin deep” ::)
    “What you have is what you’ve got” :-/

    I think that kind of says it all doesn’t it * ;)

    To all those who are either ugly or have ugly machines, your welcome to join the club… ;D I had a laugh

    FB *:)
    That is fair enough and I agree with you, but the question was what the ugliest home/pro machine is.

    Anyone? Anyone.........Bueller?

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    Nobody is ever going to say that the machine that they spent so much money on (however much that is) is ugly.

    I mean if you think your machine is ugly, or your wife for that matter, it is time for an upgrade...

    Grant

    PS. Great thread for offending owners of other machines!

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    I agree with all the above.

    One thing to note is that style often equates to simplicity in design crossed with functionality. *You will often find the cheaper domestic targetted devices (whatever they are) will be covered with things that "try" to make them look appealing in the eyes of the average consumer (ie Super Happy Fun-Time). *It is quite often only when you start paying out big bucks that you are confronted by the classic simplicity and functionality of high quality equipment that does not go in or out of fashion as it stands alone in its simplicity. *I have found that a lot of general consumers see this simplicity as meaning ugly. *So yes, beauty is in the eye of the coffee maker.

    In my own personal opinion the Silvia has the classic simplicity and functionality that I want in my kitchen. *I suppose what I like about the Silvia is that it is unassuming and lacks the "pretty" features that could make it look tacky.

    PS. I own a NAD T763 AV Reciever :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wattgn link=1122270079/0#4 date=1122294284
    Nobody is ever going to say that the machine that they spent so much money on (however much that is) is ugly.

    I mean if you think your machine is ugly, or your wife for that matter, it is time for an upgrade...

    Grant

    PS. Great thread for offending owners of other machines!
    There has to be something out there that is not yours and is still ugly. *I have a Saeco Magic that is very ugly. *

    Just because your machine or wife is ugly you wouldnt upgrade, or would you? *Unless you are very shallow, indeed. *There is always more to the machine, person or whatever it is, that meets the eye. *It just happens that we are only talking about what meets the eye. *A simple concept really. *


    If some get offended then they either dont have a sense of humour or are truely snobs. ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinx link=1122270079/0#5 date=1122296120
    I agree with all the above.

    One thing to note is that style often equates to simplicity in design crossed with functionality. *You will often find the cheaper domestic targetted devices (whatever they are) will be covered with things that "try" to make them look appealing in the eyes of the average consumer (ie Super Happy Fun-Time). *It is quite often only when you start paying out big bucks that you are confronted by the classic simplicity and functionality of high quality equipment that does not go in or out of fashion as it stands alone in its simplicity. *I have found that a lot of general consumers see this simplicity as meaning ugly. *So yes, beauty is in the eye of the coffee maker.

    In my own personal opinion the Silvia has the classic simplicity and functionality that I want in my kitchen. *I suppose what I like about the Silvia is that it is unassuming and lacks the "pretty" features that could make it look tacky.

    PS. I own a NAD T763 AV Reciever :)
    There are nice and ugly in both cheap domestic and professional machines. * Ugliness has nothing to do with price. ::)

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    Re: what is the ugliest home/pro machine ??? poll

    good one about beuller monti one of my favourite movies


    this is a light hearted thread......................


    anyway people are getting off topic

    forget price--- quality

    what IS YOUR OPINION OF THE UGLY MACHINES OUT THERE

    i was just told by my friend his machine is really ugly...he told me the ugliness of it has grown on him.

    Bezzara (not sure of spelling) he said they are all ugly, but works great so he isnt too fussed. he also drives a Leyland P76.


    monti your right about offending silvia owners. but this thread isnt too offend. just get opinions. i dont mind the silvia, but would prefer it in polished stainless not dull.

    Like your opinion anyway.........i have seen a photo of a new prototype of the new silvia, but rancilio dont want to mess with a winning formula. It has a pressure guage on it etc.

    there are some terrrible looking plastic machines out there.........look in myers, etc...

    lots of Saecos.......Juras


    cheers



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    I may regret having said this later -- when I go past Crivelli and drool over their displays of chromed machines.... But, honestly, arent coffee machines ugly anyway? In essence they are a boxy chunk of metal with knobby and spidery protrusions. Even Italian designers must scratch their heads at the challenge of giving aesthetic qualities to such a functional hunk of merchandise. There. I said it. Ill now go into the kitchen and tell Miss Silvia that I still love her.

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    Oh really? Is there any machine more sexy than an ECM Giotto? 8-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2muchcoffeeman link=1122270079/0#10 date=1122333786
    Oh really? Is there any machine more sexy than an ECM Giotto? *8-)
    Of course there is!
    The ECM Veneziano A1. 8-)

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    Dunno Monti.....gimme a lever operated e61 anyday 8-) ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by robusto link=1122270079/0#9 date=1122329968
    I may regret having said this later -- when I go past *Crivelli and drool over their displays of chromed machines.... *But, honestly, arent coffee machines ugly anyway? In essence they are a boxy chunk of metal with knobby and spidery protrusions. *Even Italian designers must scratch their heads at the challenge of giving aesthetic qualities to such a functional hunk of merchandise. *There. I said it. Ill now go into the kitchen and tell Miss Silvia that I still love her.
    Oh, no! *Some are very sexy indeed.
    Here is an example of a sexy commercial one. *




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    Nuova Simonelli Oscars are pretty ugly. A few months ago I was considering buying one, and the first thing I noticed about it was how cheap and nasty it looked. That said, the look grew on me. My wife thought it was cute, so what does that say about me?!?!

    I was going for the oscar, until I stumbled across an even uglier machine, the expobar office! Tall, narrow, not as shiny as an ECM, the e61 group is mostly hidden, overall its rather ugly - but great quality at such a low price!

    And itll be sitting next to my mazzer mini, IMHO a very sexy grinder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattyj link=1122270079/0#14 date=1122361931
    Nuova Simonelli Oscars are pretty ugly. A few months ago I was considering buying one, and the first thing I noticed about it was how cheap and nasty it looked. That said, the look grew on me. My wife thought it was cute, so what does that say about me?!?!
    I had a laugh
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    I reckon the Expobar Office Automatic and Semi Automatic machines are very ugly. The Grimac Mia is ugly too. *And what about the Elektra Microcasa and the La Pavoni Lever machines? Ugly! Just my personal opinion, mind you. *:)

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    OK my vote is for the Expobar Brewtus Double Boiler - does that look like a Dick Smith add-on temp guage or what? Thats ugly design no doubt about it (but for value, thats a different story and Id happily own one for all the good comments I have heard)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JM link=1122270079/15#17 date=1127018554
    OK my vote is for the Expobar Brewtus Double Boiler - does that look like a Dick Smith add-on temp guage or what?
    I recently noticed how particularly and singularly cheap and nasty the chrome plated plastic pressure gauge on my Giotto Premium is. Easy to overlook, but once youve noticed, hard to ignore. As is the great big thumbprint on the inside of the glass (which again, is actually plastic).

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    I wouldnt have called the silver dick E61s ugly? Impractical maybe. ie. the group can get hot and no room underneath to clean.

    It is in the mind of the beholder though just what ugly is. Most espresso machines really send a message. ie. flash, or heavy duty and business like. Others space age and high tech.

    I mean is a fridge, stainless or otherwise really pretty?

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    Its whats on the inside that counts. Hopefully lots of tasty stuff and/or beer. Nothing worse than an empty fridge. Or maybe a broken one, but at least you can turn a broken fridge into a good wine cabinet.

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    nunu:

    That is a good point.

    I hope one day when my heart is living on borrowed time and I have to change my nappies every few hours that I still have the rusted out hulk of my Bezzera by my side.

    It will probably be useful to store my prescription drugs in.

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    Im SURE theyll be "prescription" drugs in the machine too Grant!! ;)

    On topic, Ive got a Gaggia Carezza.... and Im sure the italians loved the look of all that plastic on the body so much that they added some to the steam arm too!!

    Could be worse... could be crap on the inside too!



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    hmm ... I think the look of the expobar has grown on me. Shes a bit of a plain-Jane, but a solid performer where it counts ... get your minds out of the gutter, boys!

    Someone said the pump on their expobar leva sounded like a tractor motor, and that made me think that the leva and the dual boiler (same externals) looks a bit tractor-ish.

    I saw a relly ugly krups machine at a friends place. Kinda like an 80s interpretation of a spaceship.

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    Gday all,

    I saw a relly ugly krups machine at a friends place. Kinda like an 80s interpretation of a spaceship.
    Ill throw in a vote for the Wega Venus.
    This thing looks to me like an 80s interpretation of a spaceship pilot. *;D
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    Mattyj touched on a point when he said, "get your minds out of the gutter, boys!"

    Begs the question, what percentage of this forum are Male?? Sadly I suspect 90%+

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    JM:

    It takes balls to make good coffee I think. This doesnt disqualify females of course. I mean Margaret Thatcher had them although Im not sure if she could make a good coffee or not.

    There are some females on the forum too who have overcome this disability and Im sure make excellent espresso, like Clarexican.

    Anyway, as the ruling gender on planet earth I think sometimes we do need to look at our behaviours more and clean up our act.

    Im starting with my own mind and will for 24 hours fantasise about women only with their clothes on. It is a small start but I think it is important to lead by example.

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    it takes balls to make good espresso??
    wouldnt ur espresso taste hairy?
    Besides, putting balls in the potrafilter and tamping it . is not at all a wonderful sight.

    i think espresso uses brain, and when i make coffee, i stop the fantasising of ladies , 1.5 min - 2 min for the surfing and 25 sec for the pull, and after that i am back to fantasising.I had a laugh

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    Thanks for the compliment Wattgn, I had a laugh!

    I think espresso made with balls would be gross, hairy, sweaty :P

    Perhaps thats why mine is sooo good as I make it with home roasted coffee ;)

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    Not saying much, but doesnt it take balls to make a good cup of tea? :-?

    Were just good at breaking things, and making a mess (at least thats what the better half tells me).

    Back to the topic of ugliest machine, The Elektra Nivola looks pretty ugly to me, but at least its symmetrical.

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    Hi

    I think this russel hobbs machine would have to be pretty close to the ugliest machine available, whadya think.

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    I agree Paul, that is ugly.


    Below is a picture of Russell and Richard Hobbs
    (AKA, the wingnut brothers)


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    The machine looks like a piece of art compared to those two.

    Maybe well see them on bodywork or some celebrity makeover show :P

    Its amazing how good you can look with a decent haircut, clean shirt and a smile.

    Now that I think about it, isnt the guy on the left Grant Hackett?

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    Grant Hackett with "dual winged keels" for added stability in the water.
    ...they were later banned in Olympic competition.




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    Maybe thats why hes been so successful in long distance swimming events. Think of the wake those ears kick up in the pool. :o

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    Re: what is the ugliest home/pro machine ??? poll

    As they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. However...

    a) that Russell Hobbs machine does not qualify as a "machine", because it is TOO ugly
    b) I happen to find those two men extremely handsome - They just ooze sensuality and compassion
    c) They probably make a fine home brew - what are those spirally copper things you see in the backwoods?...
    d) I agree with El Espresio - The Unico Splendor looks to me like a plastic (sorry, plexiglass™ (i.e plastic) Wurlitzer Jukebox from the Innovations catalogue - but I do like the idea of the CS mod!!
    :D


    NB for sensitive souls. NOt all of this is meant to be taken seriously 8-) :o

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    That RH machine looks like a constipated kettle on the verge of exploding. There are designers...and there are designers

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    Hi ,

    Yes it looks like theres a bit too much chlorine in that gene pool, anyway I was looking thru some machine reviews the other day and I came across the versalab M3 , its supposed to make an excellent cup but it would have to be one of the ugliest pro machines around and for around $10,000US , what do you think




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    For 10 gs I think you should get something that looks halfway decent, and cleans the house when you are away. More than one group would be a good idea too.

    Functionality is one thing, and obviously the engineers love the boxy edge the machine has. At least have matching colours on the panels. Is the group handle some sort of red wood?

    Get the local hooligans down to spray paint graffiti all over it and it may be a little aesthetically appealing. But hey, I bet it makes a killer cuppa.

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    Ten thousand US for a single-group machine? $AU 13,000. Hmmmm, it would have to make quite a mean espresso to justify that amount.

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    Hi ,

    Yeh it seems like its a machine built from the inside out, and seems pretty hi tech . Have a look at the grinder and hydraulic tamper you can buy with it as well .

    http://www.versalab.com/server/coffee/m3.html

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    youll also notice the lack of steam arm. Its made for espresso only.

    There was a load of contoversy over this machine over at CoffeeGeek - lots of expectation of this being a high end performer, but a few people werent happy with versalabs stall at the SCAA convention last year ... something to do with not having a very good barista (apparently), arrogant sales people or something...

    But yeah, its built from the inside out, for optimum espresso performance. I think its also made to be temp and pressure adjustable. Not too sure though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Freeman link=1122270079/30#31 date=1128095643
    Below is a picture of Russell and Richard Hobbs
    (AKA, the wingnut brothers)
    Aww Geez Andy,

    Where on earth did you find these two. Have to add weight to the pro-abortionists lobby.... Pheeww!

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