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    The human PID aka. open-boiler lever machines rock

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    So I picked up a La Peppina lever machine for 80 Euro, delivered, from ebay. Who would have thought that it would require nothing more than a good descale to get to this point:




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    Re: The human PID aka. open-boiler lever machines

    Seems like you got a steal from someone who was either desperate to get rid of it, or had no idea what was wrong with it before trying to ditch it.

    Where was it delivered from? Shipping must have been about half of the price.

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    Like I said, it has an open-boiler design. Basically, the heating element just goes full-bore, with no control at all. The nice thing is that the element is located in the part of the machine that the group head comes off, so its almost an active group heater. One user has reported that this means that temperatures at the group head are a constant first crack below boiler temp. I find that particular claim difficult to belive, but it is quite believable that the difference is constant, and thats what matters. Repeatability. Anyhoo, a thermometer in the (open) boiler means that changing temps is as simple as flicking the element on a bit more or adding some cold water. (This particular thermometer has a big lag time, though; I reall should get a proper thermocouple)

    Steaming is more or less impossible, but who cares? Its an espresso-only machine.

    I posted up some more on h-b: http://www.home-barista.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=512

    Jim Schulman and Lino Verna have got theirs PIDded: http://www.home-barista.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=622&start=0

    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by nunu link=1130248580/0#1 date=1130248815
    Seems like you got a steal from someone who was either desperate to get rid of it, or had no idea what was wrong with it before trying to ditch it.

    Where was it delivered from? Shipping must have been about half of the price.
    Yeah, I picked it up for 50 Euro from a german guy who was selling it for scrap. I gather that he knew what it was, but thought that it was broken because it wouldnt run water through it. Some citric acid took care of most of that, but there is still some scale that I need to get rid of on the element.

    Turned out that sending it surface mail for 30 Euro was impractical, so the dude picked up the tab to send it air mail for 50 Euro!

    Apparently several of these go each month for about $200 US, so picking up this one was a no-brainer. It really is a great machine; very practical for home use.

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    Re: The human PID aka. open-boiler lever machines

    Espresso only...My kind of machine (who needs milk to ruin the coffee).

    Considering the shipping was 50 euro, equal to the cost of the machine, I dont really care if its a fully on boiler. If you can control the boiler cycle slightly, youll be in business to pull shot after shot.

    Wish I had a budget to spend on coffee equipment. I can only do with what I have, nothing more. Keeping discretionary spending low is one of the things that allow us to save as much as we do. Its not that bad of a lifestyle, you just have to really be conscious about what you spend money on. Its all about factoring in some sort of return on any investment, whether it be 20 dollars or 200. You have to be able to save religiously if you want to get anywhere in the housing market in Sydney. Wed love to have our own house, but prices definitely deter us from taking the plunge.

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    Re: The human PID aka. open-boiler lever machines

    Nunu,

    I think you just had a bunny + pancake moment there :-).

    Nyg

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    I think Im sharing the bunny pancake moment. But seriously, Nunu, its extremely rare for house prices to go backwards.... the longer you wait to take the plunge, the bigger the splash. Princes just keep rising. Its an unfortunate state of affairs apparently ignored by all the pundits telling us weve never had it so good in a booming economy.
    Ah, something to contemplate over a good espresso.

    --Robusto

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    Were stable where we are. By all intensive purposes we own the place. We just pay rent to the in-laws. Maintenance, council rates, water, and strata fees are taken care of by us. Good place in a good location, the title just isnt in our name.


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