Wow! Quite a spruik, Jchiha. Whats your commission? ;)
Wow! Quite a spruik, Jchiha. Whats your commission? ;)
Were a little short on detail here, Joe. Would you care to elaborate? These tampers have been recommended before, but .............Id like to know specifically what it is you have to say about the company/tamper.. 8-)Originally Posted by jchiha link=1138601017/0#0 date=1138601017
Sure thing peoples.
1> The service was exceptional. Sent my coffee basket to allow exact fitting and received the goods in a well protected box in 4 days!
2> The tamper feels wonderful to use and the scored edges allows more accurate tamping.
3> The tamper itself is a beautiful piece of work and hand crafted so it stands out more.
4> Greg himself wants feedback after buying the tamper for improvements and quality control
5> The way the wood is carved makes it very comfortable to hold! It is a pefect weight as well. Not too heavy or not too light!
DOes this help?
I nearly bought a Reg Barber...but for the same price, speed and professionalism, go the Pullman. There is no commission I assure you.
Now thats a very concise and comprehensive review. I would order one with confidence.Originally Posted by jchiha link=1138601017/0#3 date=1138611887
I second this. Super product, super service.
it just sucks that the La Marzocco baskets can vary in internal diameter just enough to be annoying. The LM basket I sent to Greg is just a fraction bigger internally than the double basket that arrived with my new portafilter! So my tamp fits one basket perfectly, but gets stuck in the other!
Not that that is Gregs fault, let me make that clear! It just means that rather than leaving one basket in a naked pf, and the other in my spouted, I have to pop the bigger basket out of whatever pf it will be in, to use it in the other.
Yep, me too,
Unreservedly recommend the Pullman Tamper, a great product, great service and its Aussie made. Win all round :)
I got myself one about 1.5 years ago. Its a very nice tamper ... well worth the price. Buy Aussie!
i ordered a silvia from sydney mocopan (coffee philosphy) on the weekend. eagerly awaiting its arrival. I have just got off the banks website after transferring money to greg for my new tamper, without having read this thread. This thread has somewhat reassured me that spending $70 on something whose sole purpose is to squishe coffee was the RIGHT thing to do, especially on a uni bums budget. o_O
Flamin heck. Times must be changing. In my uni days ALL spare coin was to be spent on beer. Luckily I have matured a little since then ;). A Silvia on tap when studying ...you lucky lucky bastard (said hanging upside down with my best Python impersonation).Originally Posted by victor link=1138601017/0#9 date=1138774545
Ha.. I wouldnt know how to study without Silvia!
Im thinking about making her and Rocky co-authors on my thesis ;)
What I wouldnt give to be spat at in the face!!Originally Posted by Matt G link=1138601017/0#10 date=1138775163
The Pullman Tamper is indeed a worthwhile investment.
Never look back! ;D
dont get me wrong. I love beer. beer is quintessential for any uni bum. Wine is good too, especially for testing how much of a snob we all are (or think we are). But I think that it is much more satisfying to have everyone compliment you on the really good coffee you just created for them. We are the main reason that their drink is so good. Go and buy a bottle of wine or beer and all you did was choose it, plus, its more expensive.
After having said that though, I think that I much prefer the after-effects of having six beers in a row to that of having six coffees in a row...
Anyway, back to the topic at hand... The tamper I got today was the Jarrah flavour. My old folks have Jarrah outdoor furniture and I reckon its pretty hefty and solid.
Would I have to oil / treat the wooden handle at all?
I dont think you need to oil the handle if you use it regularly.
I believe the oils you impart from handling it are sufficient.
Certainly mine still looks and feels great after 18 months.
Have been considering one of these for a while, but I dont want to part with my baskets while theyre being measured etc. Does anyone think its neccesary to send them in, I have a silvia with stock baskets...
Well, I have a stock standard Silvia and I just ordered the tamper without sending the baskets in.
My tamper fits fine, but there is always a slight risk that your baskets might have a slight variation.
Rather than send your basket/s in, another option is to take your baskets to a hardware store, or someone who has access to a measuring tool called a vernier caliper - as mentioned on his web site:
and send Greg the exact measurements.
I didnt have to send mine in, as I could pick my machine from a dropdown list. As a precautionary measure, I did measure my PF and gave him the measurements.
Besides, youll only be out of it for a few days anyway. You might have to use *cough* a plunger.
I think you should be alright with silvia, i used the verniers and gave Greg the measuremts (so do that if you can). it fits perfectly! although it does sometimes stick slightly in the LM basket i received a while back (obviously not Gregs fault).
As a side note, i was curious to the difference this tamper was going to make.... believe me it is huge!! especially from the thing provided with silvia.
Very happy with the purchase and the service Greg gave leading up to his holidays before christmas. Great effort
Couldnt you use the single portafilter whilst it is on holiday?Originally Posted by nunu link=1138601017/15#17 date=1138838176
All good, have access to one of those fancy rulers now ;) Will be ordering the tamp early next week, hopefully bring a little more consistancy to my shots *8-)
or you can also buy a spare basket ... considering that a LM double basket is $7 + postage (Im too lazy to drive to Roseberry).
Once youve got your basket back, you can drill a small hole in the spare, a hole small enough for a k-type thermocouple...
Speaking of thermocouples, very interested in getting that kind of setup too.
Ive ran some tests with a multi-meter and k-type probe, but instead of doing any modding I just ran the probe wire through one of the portafilter spouts. At that point the water had already gone through the coffee puck and basket, so perhaps making the readings misleading...
Will open another thread for this anyways ;)
Manacles . . . Oooh . . . My idea of heaven is to be allowed to put in manacles . . . just for a few hours . . .Originally Posted by fatboy link=1138601017/0#12 date=1138791679
Will someone put me out of my missery. One of you good folks did at some time post a pic of a leaver operated tamping machine. For the love of searching I cannot find the pic. So if you have a pic or know of a supplier of these devices can someone please let me know the details.
This thread is interesting as there is much discussion on tamp pressure. It is elusive isnt it? I mean what works for one doesnt work for another witness the 2 baristas. The grind, the tamp and the type of filter all interact to make crema. I tried using a open Krups basket abit at first it seemed ok but one time I had to make a lot of essence so changed over to the Sunbeam double only to find that i got more crema.
Use of the double basket for a single shot is good in that the volume of grind that fills the basket to the top is the quantity i use. When this is tamped it goes some way down the basket, about 4mm. Repeating this process gives me repeatability as I do the same grind. The shot usually runs 15 to 20 sec. The shorter the shot the more creamy the coffee.
I have found that my tamp pressure does vary inspite of my trying to make it the same. I have looked at those clickers and whilst they would do the job if used carefully i want gay abandonment as Im usually talking whilst making a brew and some times the need for concentration is lost in the banter.
Whilst picking up an early breakfast latte this morning from my local coffee shop I watched the female barista as she alone behind the counter proceeded to serve 5 of us all in the same time frame. She had the whole process off pat. She was fully in sync with the process producing one great brew after the other. I couldnt resist it I just had to say well done. She smiled back and said "know about coffee do you?" Just a little i replied as she proceed to use the doser and then take the portafilter up to the fixed tamp.
Now here is where it gets interesting. You see she was woking flat out, arms and legs and torso going at a great rate. Poetry in motion really. But then the tamp pressure was nothing more than a quick upward movement of the portafilter agaist the fixed tamp plate. The pressure at a guess would be no more that 6 to 8lbs. Basiclly she was just tidying up the grind in the PF.
Like I said poetry in motion and customer service at its best but was she getting maximum extraction? Lest face it we pay for a coffee, right, if we only get half the extraction and this makes for a great brew and the grind gets thrown out who cares? If on the other hand there is a greater extraction then this will of course change the result. A different taste noless.
Hence when i arrive for a coffee the first thing i look for is who is the barista driving the machine then I order the cofffee.
5 minutes later im checking emails and sipping on a great brew. So what is all the controversy over tamp pressure?
If necessary it would be very simple to build a machine to give the pressure one needed, adjustable at that, so that the same personal pressure can be applied every time. It is possible that there are such machines out there hence my request for pics and a supplier. If not then maybe ill retire and make them.
When does this journey stop?
It keeps the grey cells active and thats for sure.
Try MACAP automatic lever tamp.
This is such an interesting area to experiment in....A friend once told me that Giancarlo Giusti of Grinders never used to tamp- just simply fill the basket and lock in and run....So I tried it....Originally Posted by Kualityman link=1138601017/15#24 date=1151576951
What I found is that if I load consistently the effect of no tamp versus 30kg (i.e over the top tamp) amounts to no more than 1/2 notch on a standard commercial grinder to maintain a consistent, high quality pour....
I still tamp and teach 15kg, but I think that accuracy and repeatability of dose is way more important...
Try it...you may be surprised ;)
Great one Chis. It is such an interesting subject and becuase of "new found knowledge and the unsatisfying thurst for knowledge I find it very entertaining to watch a barista at work. Just as back up in this thread theres the story of 2 baristas at work with the same machine, and im sure in the commercial world there must be a zillion of these. Each to their own as long as we get consistancy. It comes down to taste taste and still more taste. Said many times on this site.
This girl was a work of art and most certainly a credit to her boss who at that early hour was still in bed!!! What I liked was when she broke the ice by saying "you know about coffee do you?" Then the smile on her face as if she had got recognition and she had. Her brew was obviously enjoyed as the customers kept coming and she kept dancing.
Now all things considered not withstanding coffee knowledge and the whole journey etc she is in my book a Barista...a maker of fine coffee.
Thanks for the suggestion re no tamp i shall try this just to see what happens. 15kg well thats around 33lbs still a fair pressure.
Thanks MattG for the reference i took a look and decided I didnt want a second job!!! Nice piece of kit but hey the price. I have an idea to make one using a touque wrench so ill play around this weekend.
Still having fun
Remember espresso is just someones idea of how coffee should be so dont be afraid to experiment to get your coffee to your own taste.
A light tamp is becoming common in places like Italy evidently, just enough to get most of the air out of the coffee and make it pour properly.
I probably use the standard pressure but I know people here too who tamp lightly.
People also have their ideas on volumes to use. Most CSers tend to ristrettos but a lot of people use higher than standard volumes.
wow this is an old thread, and im sure this has been discussed in a more recent one but i couldnt be bothered to look for it.
anywho, in my limited experience of fixed tampers,(i worked in a cafe that had one, but promptly brought my own tamper in after about 2 shifts!) they are less effective for a number of reasons,
1. your applying upwards pressure which is harder to control than downwards
2. the tamps are far from fitted, normally well smaller than your basket
3. because your not resting the portafilter on anything, its harder to get an even tamp, applying excess pressure to one side.
ive found my coffee to be exponentially better when i tamp user my tamper and watching over the tamp.
Agreed. The first tamper I made was a replacement for the built-in tamper on the Quaha / Imat / Mokita / Nemox range. On the (now defunct) page for that tamper I wrote the following comments at the time which correlate with your point 1) and 3): "...since these require the user to tamp in an upwards direction (against gravity), experience has shown it to be more difficult to exert the same tamping force as can be achieved with the Deluxe model and at the same level of consistency." These of course were fitted which removed your point 2) as an issue though in almost every other case theyre not. By contrast and again in correlation with your last comment, on the page about the Deluxe tamper I wrote: "Tamping by hand allows you to exert a high tamp pressure because youre working with gravity and putting your body weight and shoulder muscles behind the tamp."
So I think were reading from the same page here!
I know this comment is not exactly in line with the last few, however it is with the original thread topic - Gregs tampers are great!
It was Christmas at work on Thursday, having received my brand new Pullman Barista tamper, and CS green bean sample pack. Oh what joy! ;)
Just a few comments on the tamper:
1. Build quality is absolutely excellent
2. Packaging was also of excellent quality
3. Usability and control is amazing
Also, Greg is extremely professional, and his prompt responses were just so comforting.
To put things in perspective, I have gone from the tamper packaged with the Sunbeam 6910 (awesomely plastic with a dodgy metallic base - which has fallen off more than once), to The Pullman. So for me, its like going from a VB Commodore to a nice new Audi R8 :)
Tamps have been way more consistent now, thanks to the guide rings. And I can actually polish my puck, instead of tearing the crap out of it with the Sunbeam tamper (go the brushed metal on the Sunbeam!).
Great work Greg.
Another happy customer!! :)
This is as good a place to post this as any I suppose...
I had a small issue with the fit of my tamper and contacted the guys at ThingsCoffee/Pullman.
Their responses were quick and they were happy to help me out. They even worked around my travel plans to make sure I got it back before I left for the US, despite being up against it themselves.
Greg has left is product in excellent hands; they have been a pleasure to deal with and put out an exceptional product.