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    Yet Another Newbie...

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Hi,

    After gaining a taste of real coffee I have taken the plunge (pun intended) and bought a machine and grinder. I took the advice and bought a Sunbeam EMO450 grinder which was as good as I could afford and a second hand gaggie espresso delux on eBay after watching all the Silvias go for more than double what I can afford...

    So, I am wanting to check that I am using it Ok. I get Ok coffee but my shot times are very quick so I think I am doing many things wrong..

    So heres what I do:
    1. Fill up with filtered water, put an empty porta-filter on and turn it on and wait 10 mins
    2. Run about a cup of water through the machine to heat up the PF
    3. Let it drain, then take off the PF and using the large basket put in two level dessert spoons of freshly ground coffee, done on the Sunbeam on setting 7 or so and tamped fairly hard
    4. PF back on, let the machine get up to temp again then then do the shot.

    The coffee comes out black for a couple of seconds and then light brown and then basicaly it is all over by 15 seconds, I tend to let it keep going until I have 100mls or so.

    5. Switch it off and then do the milk.

    To my taste it is a bit bitter and not enough depth of flavour but still better than most shops.

    If I make the grind finer it really doesnt change much, if I go to the smaller basket then it just cloggs - too much or too fine, or both of course!

    Any suggestions, in particular:

    A. Is my routine Ok
    B. Should I be using the small or large basket for a single cup
    C. How much coffee should I end up with, 100Mls seems to be what they give you in a cafe
    D. is my shot time to short (from my reaqding it is...)

    Many thanks - I am not unhappy with the coffee but think it could be a lot better, the beans are relativly fresh and smell great.


    Thanks,


    Scott.

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    Re: Yet Another Newbie...

    Gday Scott,

    Welcome to CoffeeSnobs [smiley=thumbsup.gif]. I think it might be a good idea if you have a read through some of the great reference material to be found on this site for starters, http://www.coffeekid.com/espresso/minifaq, this one http://www.home-barista.com/espresso-guide.html, then this one http://home.surewest.net/frcn/Coffee/Coffee.html and see how you go after that. Theres a fair bit of learning to do and skills that must be acquired.... all it takes is time and practice ;). Easy to say I know but you have to start at the beginning like the rest of us. All the best and enjoy the journey,

    Mal.

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    Re: Yet Another Newbie...

    Ive setup the same gaggia for a family member and its capable of making excellent shots.

    Firstly are your beans really fresh ie roasted within the last week, if youre using supermarket beans then all is lost ;) (I know you said they are relatively fresh but relative is a relative term :D)

    Shot time should be 20-25secs for no more than 60mls using the double basket. Shots should start out dark brown and thick (almost like honey) and just starting to go blonde at the end of the pour.

    Basket fill: make sure you fill the basket too a level so that an impression of the showerscreen is left oin the puck when it is removed. Itll be a cople of mm below the rim.

    let us know about the beans, the rest is just conjecture until you eliminate the most likey source of fast and thin shots

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    Re: Yet Another Newbie...

    Quote Originally Posted by mauricem link=1154749275/0#2 date=1154750358
    Ive setup the same gaggia for a family member and its capable of making excellent shots.

    Firstly are your beans really fresh ie roasted within the last week, if youre using supermarket beans then all is lost ;) *(I know you said they are relatively fresh but relative is a relative term :D)
    Hi,

    I bought the beans off the internet from a mob in Melbourne that roasts them freshly but that was about a month and a half ago so not sure...

    Thanks,


    Scott.

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    Re: Yet Another Newbie...

    Behmor Brazen - $249 - Free Freight
    hi scott
    welcome to the coffee journey- lots of paths and everyone has a different experience and diff suggestions!
    still somethings stand
    beans start to lose their aroma and crema fairly quickly after ground, no matter how u keep them some say even in minutes
    see if u can find a local roaster or buy whole beans via internet as u have been and invest in a good grinder- say few hundred $ upwards (i bought a used cunill el tranquilo for $200 and it has made the most amazing difference- more than if i had spent many thousands on machinery)- its worth it, otherwise little aroma and the oils which evaporate quickly are responsible for the aroma and the mystical crema
    sorry if u know all this!
    all the best
    brett



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