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    Magnetic Descaler

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    I was surfing the Dubya cubed today and found this: http://www.ecozone.co.uk/product_inf...d433a6f7dbc9a7

    It is a chemical-free magnetic ring that is supposed to polarize the calcium "preventing unsightly stains and lime scale build up for up to 5 years"

    The idea is that you place the ring in the cold water tank of coffee machine and fill up with cold water as usual.

    If this works it is quite an amazing concept - I think it would also be an excellent opportunity for an Australian business - either a site sponsor or a coffeesnob.

    If it works.

    I understand the theory behind the concept but lack the specific knowledge that would allow me to analysise its potential effectiveness. Any thoughts from those more chemically minded?


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    Re: Magnetic Descaler

    Hhhhmmm.....Somehow Im sceptical.


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    Re: Magnetic Descaler

    Quote Originally Posted by Javaphile link=1179880852/0#1 date=1179883845
    Hhhhmmm.....Somehow Im sceptical.


    Java "Looking for proof" phile
    Yep, Ive done a bit of browsing and there are some interesting "claims" for this technique... but not a lot of really credible proof.

    It would be great if effective - one review even claimed the treated water would remove old scale in pipes and boilers over time... It would be an interesting "silver bullet" but more likely just silver plated. ::)

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    Yep,

    There are devices available based upon the use of strong magnetic fields but these are usually very expensive, somewhat more complex and once installed, are good for the life of the installation with regular backflushing. Theyre used a lot in hospitals, laboratories and anything else that require high quality "soft" water. Ill have a dig around to see if I can find info on them,

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    Re: Magnetic Descaler

    Here you go,

    These are the devices I was referring to above. I made some tentative enquiries about them but even the smallest unit was too expensive for my shallow pockets but may be of interest to others. You should read articles of this nature from reputable sources prior to parting with your hard-earned though,

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    Thanks for the threads, Mal.

    A few months ago I researched this same topic....trying to find out for myself whether "magnetic descalers" would be a viable alternative to a commercial water softening unit for my espresso machine, post-descaling.

    I opted for the cation resin water softener that removes Ca and Mg salts before they enter the machine. It is regenerated by flushing ordinary salt through it just before the hardness of the water increases. In commercial situations this would be on a monthly basis....but in a domestic situation is MUCH longer. The hardness of the water is easily measured with a test kit.

    The resin itself does need replacing after many, many regenerations...but after the initial modest outlay, the softening unit will more than prove its worth. How much would you pay to NEVER need to descale a boiler?

    JavaB...liked the silver (plated) bullet line!

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    Hi all

    The magnetic descalers as advertised will do nothing. A magnetic ring cannot "polarise" calcium or any other ion in solution. Its complete baloney. A complete waste of money. But a good way to alert technical people visiting your home and seeing your magnetic device that you are "in tune" with the vibrational fields of the cosmos :-)

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    What? Magnets have no therapeutic benefits.... :o! What am I gonna do with this bag of magnets I just bought :P

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    What to do with magnets? :-)
    Magnets never fail to hold a fascination for children. As they grow older just buy them more powerful magnets. I think the rare earth magnets like NeFeB ones are better suited for 10 and up as they can bite :-)
    The folks at CERN have very big magnets to play with for their large Hadron Collider experiment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by speleomike link=1179880852/0#8 date=1179922818
    What to do with magnets? :-)
    Coming from an electrical engineering background and well before that, magnets (of all descriptions and types) have always been very interesting to me, but particularly NIBs ::) :P.

    Quote Originally Posted by speleomike link=1179880852/0#8 date=1179922818
    The folks at CERN have very big magnets to play with for their large Hadron Collider experiment.
    Mike
    Now, that would be nice to play with :o ;D

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    Re: Magnetic Descaler

    Sounds like the idea that broughtr Peter Brocks career with Holden to a screeching ABS halt! The magnetic black box which his guru mate told him would align the molecules in the metal body of the Brock Commodore and give it amazing powers.

    --Robusto

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    Re: Magnetic Descaler

    Attention all CS members.

    As a public service, I hereby offer Wingnuts Psychic Descaling Service (10% discount to CS members).

    Just send me the money you would have spent on a magnetic descaler and I will reach out through the Universe and descale your machine to the utmost cleanliness that can be achieved with my formidable powers.

    Peace, love, save the dolphins.

    Wingnut

    P.S. If anyone is actually silly enough to send money to me, I will donate it to the Smith Family and attempt the descale for free.

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    Hi all

    Yes I remember Peter Brocks Energy Polariser. Sports car racers should stick to what they know and do well at. But yes the similiarity is 100 % - both think that something is polarised by the teensy-weensy magnetic field and both are a ripoff.

    However often shops that sell these products are as unaware of the non-efficacy of these as the consumers. They are not technically minded nor do the "do their homework" in deciding to offer a product for sale and may rely on the marking material supplied to them.

    Mike

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    Re: Magnetic Descaler

    Mythbusters and magnets - now that is one Id love to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grendel link=1179880852/0#13 date=1180183149
    Mythbusters and magnets - now that is one Id love to see.
    Oh no! I can just see the sort of problems that Adam would get himself into with a pile of large NIBs :o, or maybe Tory, he seem somewhat accident prone as well :-?,

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