Nice little machine- my son has my old one 6 or 7 years old, no problems. I recently put in a non pressurised filter handle ($45 from Caffee Bianchi) and with a good grinder it is making lovely coffee
Best of luck
Yep good luck with it. I know of several who are quite happy with the results theyre getting from the VV. Down the track once you get upgraditis and find yourself with a decent burr grinder, non-pressurised baskets and possibly even a tamper that fits, youll be getting those good shots consistely more often than at present.
Considering I am truly a newbie, want to get valuable experience across the board I buy the non-pressurised basket and the rest.......
At the moment, just trying things out but the coffee is good at present. Am surprised
Its a journey. Take it at your own pace and enjoy each step as Im sure you will. Youll probably look back in months to come and realise how far youve come with it all.
I have read numerous comments here about PF baskets in the VV. Does a tamper still need to be used for these? I found it surprising I didnt get one with machine.
Also with the shot of espresso, should this simply be timed (obviosuly depends on size of shot and tamping) or does one look for changes in colour in the output?
Sorry if these questions seem silly :)
You aim for 25-30 second pour but stopping as soon as the colour blondes is important to the taste.
For my money, colour before timing.
You can adjust the timing on the next attempt by changing the grind size.
With the via venezia you dont tamp, in theory, especially if you are just doing the supermarket coffee thing- just fill to level but then often you need to stop the flow at anywhere down to 9 sec before it starts to get the pale blonding
I had success with a very light tamp with anything suitable size and using a reasonable grinder- longer extractions.
With the non pressurised pf and a good tamper the results on the (now my sons) machine are very good. You can also take the panarello attachment off and steam with the inside plastic cone shaped attachment- one hole- to get very good microfoam.
With the non p handle its an underrated machine and will last forever
I notice my extraction seems to be quite quick. I made 1 capuccino for my gf and with two outlets on the portafilter too much coffee seem to come out and quickly.
When one uses a single cup, should the extraction be less as too much coffee is extracted too quickly??
Other than that, I have been given an old school grinder, a Girmi and its not a Burr grinder but its a start and at least can get fresh coffee.......
One step at a time :)
Hi SplicanOriginally Posted by Splican link=1161761352/0#9 date=1162291327
as I may have already said the pressurised pf is for supermarket coffee- getting ok coffee n matter what the standard goes in
I found the best supermarket stuff for the vv was lavazza il perfetto because it was finer than most. Another alternative if you have a good roaster locally is to get them to grind something very fine for you- this will slow down the extraction.
The 25 sec rule definitely doesnt work with the ppf as it stands- expect about 9 sec- or before you get the pale blonding
With a nonpress pf you must tamp and have a good grinder- lowest would be lux or sunbeam equiv
Best of luck- at least you know it wont die in a few weeks like certain chinese sourced units!