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    Reg Barber Tamper - Powder Coat or Anodised?

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    Currently using an aluminium generic tamper.

    Im interested in purchasing a Reg Barber tampers - unsure whether to go w/ the powdercoat finish or anodised.

    Concerned the powder coat is prone to chipping and and is less fragile than the anodised?
    How durable is the powder coating on the tampers as opposed to the anodised.

    Any one experienced durability problems w/ the paint finish over a period of time?

    Look forward to te advise - thanks .

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    Re: Reg Barber Tamper - Powder Coat or Anodised?

    Quote Originally Posted by scp1906 link=1200698914/0#0 date=1200698914
    Currently using an aluminium generic tamper.

    Im interested in purchasing a Reg Barber tampers - unsure whether to go w/ the powdercoat finish or anodised.

    Concerned the powder coat is prone to chipping and and is less fragile than the anodised?
    How durable is the powder coating on the tampers as opposed to the anodised.

    Any one experienced durability problems w/ the paint finish over a period of time?

    Look forward to the advise - thanks .
    Shame youre not buying Aussie made scp :(- we have some great stuff- including Pullman and Coffeelab just to name a couple.

    Powdercoat, by nature will chip if you knock it around. I suppose it depends on how you care for it....

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    Re: Reg Barber Tamper - Powder Coat or Anodised?

    I love my Pullman tamper (made right here!) and its a thing of beauty that improved my shot consistency out of sight...

    Cheers

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    Re: Reg Barber Tamper - Powder Coat or Anodised?

    Hi scp,

    Powdercoating is better on stainless steel, anodizing is better on aluminum so Id definitely recommend the anodized if you do want to go for a metal handle. The appearance is different to anodized, more of a painted finish rather than coloured metal (which is exactly what anodized aluminum is). Anodizing also feels a lot colder to the touch as youre touching metal whereas powdercoating applies a layer over the metal so youre touching powdercoat not metal, so it feels less cold to the touch.

    Epic used Reg Barbers with powdercoated aluminum handles; one was completely back to bare metal on top and the other was very chipped all over although thats with very heavy cafe use. So yes, powdercoating will certainly be less durable than aluminum. Ive got some photos of their tampers showing their condition on my other PC so if youre really keen Ill post them later.

    Are you set on a RB? As the other guys have said, weve got some very good tampers in Australia already so Id encourage you to give those some consideration if you havent already - Steve Bailey has put a lot of work into the Coffeelab tamper and hes gone with anodizing for the aluminum handle (a decision I fully support), and the Pullman Deluxe (our own product ;)) has a range of hardwood handles and levelling rings on the base; both tampers have a good following. Some sponsors carry a few imported tampers too. At the end of the day though everyones different so good luck with whatever you choose.

    Greg

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    Re: Reg Barber Tamper - Powder Coat or Anodised?

    Throw me in as another vote for anodised. We have a powdercoat RB at work that is pretty banged up. The anodised strikes me as much more robust.

    As for all of the different tampers available - the best way to make your decision is to try them, if possible.

    Cheers,

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    Re: Reg Barber Tamper - Powder Coat or Anodised?

    Hi scp1906,

    May I confirm what ozscott stated. After the purchase of a new Pullman tamper my shots also improved dramatically.

    Two or three reasons:-

    - the bottom heavy design seems to encourage one to tamp vertically
    - this can be confirmed by sighting around the concentric rings cut into
    the edge of the tamper
    - the tamper fits snugly agains the edges of the portafilter ensuring a
    nice compaction of the puck

    Recommend them highly!

    Trevorbeans

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    Re: Reg Barber Tamper - Powder Coat or Anodised?

    Thanks Guys,

    Fantastic response to what I needed to know - this is one great site - Ill strongly consider OUR tampers - looking into them now..

    Thanks Greg especially for your detailed insight - 8-)

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    Re: Reg Barber Tamper - Powder Coat or Anodised?

    You may not be aware SCP that you are encouraged by Greg/JavaB to send your baskets to them for caliper measurements and then the base is turned (custom in other words) for your baskets....the fit is then second to none.

    Cheers

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    Re: Reg Barber Tamper - Powder Coat or Anodised?

    I highly recommend the RB anodized aluminium tamper. I have two and they are brilliant.

    Pullman are also good, depends what you like I guess....

    The aluminium is durable but most importantly feels great. Silky smooth.

    I had mine engraved with a logo. Looks stunning.

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    Re: Reg Barber Tamper - Powder Coat or Anodised?

    Heres why I dont like powdercoated aluminum. This is Epics tamper Feb 2008 - admittedly it gets a hard life but surely tampers should be made to last not just to look fancy? :-?


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    Re: Reg Barber Tamper - Powder Coat or Anodised?

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Pullman link=1200698914/0#9 date=1203414037
    Heres why I dont like powdercoated aluminum. This is Epics tamper Feb 2008 - admittedly it gets a hard life but surely tampers should be made to last not just to look fancy? :-?
    And I wonder how much of that powder coating made its way into the coffee. :o ;D

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    Re: Reg Barber Tamper - Powder Coat or Anodised?

    Several good reasons to buy a Pullman tamper:

    1. Well-made, perfectly fitted, heavy, machined SS base
    2. Warm, comfortable, attractive, durable hardwood handle
    3. Leveling rings in base - one of the best features of the tamper
    4. Locally made, locally supported by site sponsor
    5. Interchangeable bases and handles (handles unscrew if desired)

    CoffeeLab tampers are also first rate, and are especially good for smaller hands.

    Matt

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    Re: Reg Barber Tamper - Powder Coat or Anodised?


    Reg who?

    ;)


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    Re: Reg Barber Tamper - Powder Coat or Anodised?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Freeman link=1200698914/0#12 date=1203432606
    Reg who?

    ;)
    Brother of Tony - Host of "Sale of the Century" and others.

    Gee Andy - Dont you know anything?

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    Re: Reg Barber Tamper - Powder Coat or Anodised?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis link=1200698914/0#10 date=1203421076

    And I wonder how much of that powder coating made its way into the coffee. *:o ;D

    Goes well with cast-iron stomachs. *8-)

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    Re: Reg Barber Tamper - Powder Coat or Anodised?

    I heard they changed their blend recently - now I know how! :o

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    Re: Reg Barber Tamper - Powder Coat or Anodised?

    Seriously guys, the guy is asking about whether to get the powdercoated or the anodised and half the post are all about how he should buy a Pullman instead.

    Ive got the powdercoated RB for use at home and its great, the Pullmans are just as great but that really isnt what the topic is asking for.

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    Re: Reg Barber Tamper - Powder Coat or Anodised?

    Quote Originally Posted by scp1906 link=1200698914/0#6 date=1200719251
    Thanks Guys,

    Fantastic response to what I needed to know - this is one great site - Ill strongly consider OUR tampers - looking into them now..

    Thanks Greg especially for your detailed insight - 8-)
    The OP seemed happy with the responses.

    Yes, the answers may have diverted a bit from the original question, but only with extra information. I dont think thats a bad thing.

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    Re: Reg Barber Tamper - Powder Coat or Anodised?

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Pullman link=1200698914/0#9 date=1203414037
    Heres why I dont like powdercoated aluminum. This is Epics tamper Feb 2008 - admittedly it gets a hard life but surely tampers should be made to last not just to look fancy? :-?

    I would hate to see this persons porta filter if this is how they treat their tamper!


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    Re: Reg Barber Tamper - Powder Coat or Anodised?

    I dont recall the portafilters as being too bad actually. Aluminium and brass are both fairly soft (relatively speaking) and powdercoating doesnt stick too well to aluminium so its not too hard to chip it. Remembering this unit was being used in a commercial environment, the treatment it got was pretty standard commercial stuff - use, not abuse. Powdercoating may be fine for gentle home use as E-Genes experience bears out.

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    Re: Reg Barber Tamper - Powder Coat or Anodised?

    I dont think this is "use" this is definately abuse. I have never seen a tamper that looked like that after commercial use. It also seems a little odd with whom the pictures are coming from doesnt it? Mr. Pullman himself?? I had a laugh Either way your not supposed to knock the portafilter with your tamper, no judges in comp would recommend that.

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    I think your comments are unfair crazyislandspawn. *The part of the tamper in that pic that have the worst flaking would never be in contact with the basket.

    As for knocking, I dont know that judges make recommendations - they judge. *And I know at least one world champion who DOES knock the tamper against the basket. *I do too. :P

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    Re: Reg Barber Tamper - Powder Coat or Anodised?

    Most important re: tampers: It fits the basket properly.
    Next most important: It fits good in the hand allowing effective and level tamping.
    Least important: its pretty

    Now... before anyone gets on my case after assuming I am bad mouthing sponsors, the last is not unimportant, it is just not as important a the others. Personally, i see tamers much in the way I see a wristwatch... My Times digital keeps time as well as a Rolex, more or less. One is certainly prettier and more prestigious, but the other gets me to rehearsals just as well... On the other hand, I wear a $180 USD Fedora on stage when I play (not that I paid that much for it). We all have our priorities.. ;)

    In regards to tapping the side of the PF... Dont. I use to but found that it is counterproductive. It moves the coffee sideways causing a more dense distribution on one side of the pre-tamped puck. Better to tap the entire portafilter downwards onto the counter, gently, three times or so to settle the coffee in the direction that it is about to be tamped at.. err. on.. towards...? I keep a scrap of dimensional oak on the counter which protects the countertop as well as making it easier to tamp by bottomless portafilter.

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    Re: Reg Barber Tamper - Powder Coat or Anodised?

    I now have a rubber mat for my grinder to sit on.
    It stops it sliding around on the benchtop.
    The mat is about an inch thick and thats what I use now to tap my (bottomless) pf on.

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    Re: Reg Barber Tamper - Powder Coat or Anodised?

    Quote Originally Posted by crazyislandspawn link=1200698914/20#20 date=1228783085
    I dont think this is "use" this is definately abuse. I have never seen a tamper that looked like that after commercial use. It also seems a little odd with whom the pictures are coming from doesnt it? Mr. Pullman himself?? I had a laugh Either way your not supposed to knock the portafilter with your tamper, no judges in comp would recommend that.
    What does it matter who took the photo? The question at the start of the thread was Should I get a powdercoat or an anodised RB? - why then is it inappropriate for anyone to post a picture of one of the very tampers with the very finish the OP was considering?? *:-? Whether its caused by use or abuse isnt the question, the facts as witnessed by myself and as testified by others in this thread are that this sort of result can and does happen to powdercoated tampers when used in commercial environments.

    It would be nice to see you using your CS membership for something constructive rather than just sowing seeds of discord.

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    Re: Reg Barber Tamper - Powder Coat or Anodised?

    I think that the consensus of the posters here is that anodised handles seem to stand up better...

    Its concerning that we seems to be headed into a storm.

    Contributors (especially newbies), please keep in mind that we play nice here at CS.

    It also means that the mod team get to sit on our hands. We prefer that ;)

    Please be respectful of the opinions of others guys, and as always, keep it on thread

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    Re: Reg Barber Tamper - Powder Coat or Anodised?

    Personally, I think it matters who took the photo because the OP was asking which RB they should purchase (not pullman) and rather than answering their question, you took it upon yourself to show them a picture of an abused RB that may or may not have been used in a commercial manner without even knowing what the OP wanted it for. Furthermore, you ask me what does it matter if it is use or abuse? Isnt that the whole point? If you use something and take care of it like a GS3 or a new car you would expect it to last a long period of time. But if you abuse it, dont clean out your pf or check your oil regularly then it probably wont last.

    Dennis, tell me what type of tamper did that World Barista Champion use? Fact is, 2006, 2007, and 2008 Champions used the Reg Barber tamper ;)

    Last but not least, regarding the comment about "playing nice", which I am sure was directed at me, I am just stating my opinion which I thought was the whole point behind a "forum".


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    Re: Reg Barber Tamper - Powder Coat or Anodised?

    Behmor Brazen - $249 - Free Freight
    Ok guys,

    I think this one has run its course and there is ample information for the OP to make an educated decision.

    With that, Im calling time...

    2mcm



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