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    Beautiful Rancilio - but what is it??

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Anyone got info on this Rancilio? Beautiful, yes....but thats about all I know about it... What make...how old....price...quality etc....anyone? :-)


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    Re: Beautiful Rancilio - but what is it??

    Hmm, cant help you there, but with the price of copper nowadays, its probably worth a bit ;)

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    Re: Beautiful Rancilio - but what is it??

    ok, for real though, its a Rancilio Omicron Z11 series

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    Excellent! Thank you. But now for the tricky part: Age...how old could this machine be? Its not quite like the "modern" z11-machines, is it? I mean, look at the front panel....and how much would it be wort?....

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    Re: Beautiful Rancilio - but what is it??

    But why for you ask? Are you thinking of buying it? is it something that struck your fancy in a nearby cafe?

    I think if you are asking the forums assistance, the forum is entitled to know why.

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    Re: Beautiful Rancilio - but what is it??

    :-) No secrets here, of course. Im thinking of buying it, but do not know what to pay for it. And in addition, Ive no user-knowledge of Rancilio, only Pavoni (and I love Pavoni...).

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    Re: Beautiful Rancilio - but what is it??

    hi
    this is a Rancilio Z9 manufactured after 1974
    there should be a manufactureres plate on the machine which will give the model.
    the Z9 had harsher lines, side panels that stuck out, smaller touchpads, oval steam / water knobs, larger drain tray, different boiler etc
    good old machine
    looks fantastic

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    Re: Beautiful Rancilio - but what is it??

    i have original parts info, wiring diagrams and programming for the level cards, and some of the original HX seals etc if you need
    graham

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    Re: Beautiful Rancilio - but what is it??

    Brilliant! Z9.. .... this is getting more and more like a treasure-hunt. And Im playing the part of the dum-dum...:-P . Q: Why cant I find anything on Z9 3 group on the Internet? I find plenty on Z9 2 group... but nothing on this.... Is it rare?....

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    Personally I reckon it would look better in stainless, the copper would turn green with tarnish in no time flat. Anyway beauty is in the eye of the beholder, it sure is intriguing though, Ive seen nothing like it..........

    Ray.

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    How true...the beauty of beauty (!) is that its truly in the eye of the beholder....however...keep in mind that this machine is aged 30+, and still not green ;-)...The machine sort of gives me the feeling of a lost era, something like Morricones masterwork "Once upon a time in America".......and yes, intriguing is the right word...I am, however, still interested to know what I should pay for this objet dart ;-)....anyone?....this treasure hunt has so far resulted in the knowledge that the machine is a Z9, and that the info on 3 group Z9s on the net is...err...absent.. Thrilling....But...again: anyone with more info? price?

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    Re: Beautiful Rancilio - but what is it??

    I did a bit of research myself and came up with this; click on the link, intriguing indeed... Ray.


    http://www.mrcappuccino.com/images/gold1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.mrcappucc
    ino.com/ranspecial.htm&h=293&w=283&sz=18&hl=en&start=54&um =1&tbnid=K4Z7y5-SXGuStM:&tbnh=115&tbnw=111&prev=/images%3Fq%3DRancilio%2BZ11%2Bespresso%2Bmachine%2 6start%3D36%26ndsp%3D18%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26clien t%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN

    Sorry guys and gals you will have to copy and paste the whole thing into your browser..............Ray.

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    Re: Beautiful Rancilio - but what is it??

    Research is fun...I too found that page...but the machines pictured there are the Z11-series, and this is (presumably) the z9-series. Although similar, it looks as if the side panels are "sharper" and not plastic...and the front panel is different, along with the spill trays.... The best Ive found so far is a 2 group Z9 with dome:

    http://www.espressoplus.com/machines/UsedEquipment/RancilioZ92Grp_big.jpg

    Nice, eh?...But the quest continues...

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    http://www.mrcappuccino.com/images/gold1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.mrcappucc
    ino.com/ranspecial.htm&h=293&w=283&sz=18&hl=en&start=54&um =1&tbnid=K4Z7y5-SXGuSt
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    Try this one...........

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    http://www.freewebs.com/tim01236987456987123/imgres.htm

    After heaps of stuffing about with this I think weve made a link that works... Ray.

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    Re: Beautiful Rancilio - but what is it??

    Or just go straight there: http://www.mrcappuccino.com/ranspecial.htm :)


    Java "Theres gold in them thar machines!" phile

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    Re: Beautiful Rancilio - but what is it??

    :-) Im really happy that this quest is intriguing you guys too....but the machine in that picture is a z11....

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    Re: Beautiful Rancilio - but what is it??

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray C link=1204102305/0#13 date=1204191692
    http://www.mrcappuccino.com/images/gold1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.mrcappucc
    ino.com/ranspecial.htm&h=293&w=283&sz=18&hl=en&start=54&um =1&tbnid=K4Z7y5-SXGuSt
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    Try this one...........
    Gday Ray,

    For really long URLs like the above, you can use a really handy little tool called "TinyURL". By way of example, the above can be reduced to this..... http://tinyurl.com/2kekql. TinyURL can be found here....http://tinyurl.com/

    Cheers,
    Mal.

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    Re: Beautiful Rancilio - but what is it??

    Thanks heaps Java and Mal, hopefully Ill remember that, it sure is handy....... Ray.

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    Re: Beautiful Rancilio - but what is it??

    here is alink to a Z9 being stripped down to refurbish. it is a Z9 DE yours is a Z9 DE Eagle. most pics are of two group machines, even though there were 1, 2, 3 and 4 group machines imported with a few 2 and 3 groups being eagles.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/johan.hamas/RancilioZ9DEEspressomaskin

    you can see that this is a later model by the Sirai pressure switch,(pic 52)in the earlier version they came out with a mercury switch for the element.
    note the electronic box (pic 1 & 2) this has removable cards and the level adjustments are done by repositionig the spring clips or by dip switches.

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    Re: Beautiful Rancilio - but what is it??

    I am truly impressed by your knowledge. You, Sir, are a true connaiseur of the objets dart that are known as espresso machines....I am convinced ( ;-) ) that this is a Z9 DE Eagle. And as a 3 group Eagle, I recon its relatively rare... And that brings me back to just one, last question, and this is the ultimate one...the $10.000 one...Price...yes, price...what the blazers should I pay for it?....

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    Re: Beautiful Rancilio - but what is it??

    what sort of dollars are being asked
    how often has the machine been serviced
    where is the machine located (what is the water quality)
    what water filter has been used
    can you see and test running

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    The machine is autcioned away with bids starting at the equivalent of 300 US dollars. (Im in Norway, so the currency is Norwegian Kroner). I do not know too much about the history of the machine, other that that it is in good working order, and serves good espresso. The water quality is excellent, as it is..err..."norwegian mountain water"...there are no problems with hardness of the water, so the machine would probably not be troubled with...what u might call it...sediments (?)..I understand that my question is quite difficult to answer giving that I dont know if the machine is in serious trouble, or in perfect condition...It probably is somewhere in between...Condition OK... I found a 2 group z9 de eagle on the Internet, in perfect condition, being sold for US$6500....steep, I know...

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    hi pavonidude
    for that sort of dollar id jump at it
    it looks in good external condition
    and if the unit is still being used and it is making good coffee, yeah

    machines that have been restored to original condition can pull big dollars if you can find some one to pay. the machine for 6 grand has probably been fully stripped, rebuilt and replated.
    i have a 1957 and a 1965 Astoria lever, both need rebuilding. oneday

    if you need parts from that side of the world i would contact Rancilio in Italy and ask who is there agent in norway / sweden or Denmark

    lovely part of the world you live in, and yes fantastic tasting water
    visited a few years ago, brother married a lady from Fredrikstad and moved over there. loves the sailing
    graham

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    Re: Beautiful Rancilio - but what is it??

    Behmor Brazen - $249 - Free Freight
    Thank you Graham. And, wow, the world is not that huge a place, is it?...Fredrikstad is only a three hours drive away, and, yes, sailing is really nice down there... .Ive never had the pleasure of visiting your corner of the world, but...well, yes...Norway is a peaceful an quiet place...Thanks for your help (so far), and rest asured...If I end up with the "eagle" and need any help with renovating it, Ill be sure to remember you ;-)...



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