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    Bottomless portafilter & triple basket

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    Hi,

    I just purchased a bottomless portafilter and it came with a triple basket and I just had a question. Ive heard of a fair number of people using the double or triple baskets with bottomless portafilters and obviously the liquid would all go into one cup as there are no spouts. If I use a double basket, should I be grinding finer to get the same amount of liquid that would normally go into one cup or am I supposed to let double the amount go into one cup? Thanks.


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    Re: Bottomless portafilter & triple basket

    If you want a single shot use the single, double shot the double, big hit of caffeine the triple.

    They arent meant for multiple drinks at once.

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    Re: Bottomless portafilter & triple basket

    Griffster,

    Most people who use a double or a triple basket for a single cup dont extract two or three times respectively the volume of espresso as they would from a single basket. The larger baskets are preferred because the shape is more regular so its easier to get consistent results, and also that by using more coffee but stopping the shot after a single cups worth of espresso, the liquid is thicker, richer and sweeter, which is a flavour profile which most prefer over a 25ml per 7g of coffee; youre getting more like 15-25ml from 16-24g of coffee.

    As far as what you should do, whatever your tastebuds dictate ;). If you use a double basket and pull 50ml then youll simply get two cups worth of strong complex espresso; if you use the same volume of ground coffee but only pull 20ml, or even 10ml, then youll obviously get a less strong drink but what you do get will taste quite different to the 50ml profile - you can only decide which flavour profile you prefer. If you use a bottomless PF and want to make two cups, I pull the shot into a measuring shot glass and pour it evenly between the two cups; not ideal in terms of temperature retention and it can be a bit messy but it works.

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    Re: Bottomless portafilter & triple basket

    Thanks for the replies.

    If I wanted to use a double basket for a single, would it be best to leave the grind setting for two shots and stop the flow at 12 to 15 seconds for the single or grind finer and/or tamp harder to get the single in the 25 second range?

    Thanks!

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    Re: Bottomless portafilter & triple basket

    Quote Originally Posted by griffster link=1212334897/0#3 date=1212374904
    Thanks for the replies.

    If I wanted to use a double basket for a single, would it be best to leave the grind setting for two shots and stop the flow at 12 to 15 seconds for the single or grind finer and/or tamp harder to get the single in the 25 second range?

    Thanks!
    Ultimately taste should be your guide, however generally it would be better to grind finer and shoot for the 20-25 sec range, stopping at 12-15 secs will likely miss out on some of the flavour that hasnt had time to be extracted, and 20-25 secs should be well before blonding has become an issue. Tamping harder doesnt help nearly as much as getting grind and dose in the right ball park.

    Bullitt

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    Re: Bottomless portafilter & triple basket

    Thanks Bullitt. If the grind is changed to halve the amount of liquid from the one normally used for doubles I would have thought that the taste would be overextracted. Ill play around with it but I wanted to see what other people normally did. :D

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    Re: Bottomless portafilter & triple basket

    Quote Originally Posted by griffster link=1212334897/0#3 date=1212374904
    If I wanted to use a double basket for a single, would it be best to leave the grind setting for two shots and stop the flow at 12 to 15 seconds for the single or grind finer and/or tamp harder to get the single in the 25 second range?
    You can pull a Ristretto from your double basket but still need to use the same dose and tamp, etc. Just grind a little finer until your shot volume in the prerequisite 25-30 seconds is around the 30ml volume.

    Alternatively, you can just pour a double shot as per normal and use two cups/glasses and throw one of the shots into a jug kept in the fridge for later use making some excellent iced-coffee, or use it to drizzle over some home-made vanilla icecream.... delicious. 8-) ;)

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    Re: Bottomless portafilter & triple basket

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    Thanks for the tips Mal. Ive never tried pulling a ristretto before but I think Ill give it a shot. :)



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