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    Stovetop coffee taste bitter without sugar

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    Im experimenting with my new stovetop espresso maker (Bialetti Brikka)
    and I found that I have to add sugar because the taste is just too bitter.
    FYI Ive followed the suggestions - use fresh filtered water and freshly roasted
    coffee - 1 week old. Ive also tried various origins - Sumatra, Ethiopian Yirgacheffe,
    and various blends - all ground for stovetop.

    The only thing I can think of is to buy a grinder grind the whole bean myself (I havent got
    a grinder yet) just before I brew the coffee.

    Would this reduce the bitterness?

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    Re: Stovetop coffee taste bitter without sugar

    Coffee made in the Brikka is normally made with sugar

    Greek recipe
    1 teaspoon of coffee for each person + 1 for the pot
    1 level teaspoon of sugar for each person
    Measure water to fill cup/s

    Other Middle Eastern recipes include cardamom

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    Re: Stovetop coffee taste bitter without sugar

    "Normally" maybe but.........

    Made with 0, 1 or 2 sugars.

    0 = sketos
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    2 = glykos

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    Re: Stovetop coffee taste bitter without sugar

    Quote Originally Posted by Koffee Kosmo link=1217120598/0#1 date=1217122329
    Coffee made in the Brikka is normally made with sugar ... Other Middle Eastern recipes include cardamom
    Really? Ive heard of recipes like this for Greek/Turkish coffee made in an ibrik, but not a moka pot...

    I believe bitterness in a moka pot brew is normally due to leaving it on the heat for too long - you should remove from the heat as soon as the coffee starts to flow.

    Grinding fresh will definitely improve the flavour of the coffee!

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    Re: Stovetop coffee taste bitter without sugar

    Dont have time right now, but a bit of a search will reveal a recent thread where someone put up their hot tips for making a quality stovetop brew.

    The idea was to make the brew relatively quickly, this was achieved by filling with near boiling water, then putting on the heat source, then removing from heat source after sufficient coffee was brewed but before things got too hot & the brewing started extracting the bitterness from the coffee. The bottom of the moka pot was cooled quickly from boiling by the judicious use of a damp teatowel. The crema rich pics put up by the OP inspired me to drag out the old bialetti for old times sake. :)

    Using freshly roasted & ground coffee is a given.


    Cheers...............Sean

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    Coffee made in the Brikka is normally made with sugar ... Other Middle Eastern recipes include cardamom

    Really? Ive heard of recipes like this for Greek/Turkish coffee made in an ibrik, but not a moka pot...

    I believe bitterness in a moka pot brew is normally due to leaving it on the heat for too long - you should remove from the heat as soon as the coffee starts to flow.

    Grinding fresh will definitely improve the flavour of the coffee!

    Sorry afton m@ is correct I misread Brikka
    you have that six sided stovetop coffee maker

    I thought that this was a continuation from another post and you got a Brikki
    Still the same rules apply do not boil the coffee on both types

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    Re: Stovetop coffee taste bitter without sugar

    Hi afton,

    I wrote up a stovetop guide whilst I was working at Veneziano. You can pick up a hard copy for free at First Pour, or you can help yourself to the pdf from here.

    Grinding your own beans should definitely help to reduce the bitterness. Moving from darker roasts to lighter, you should notice that the coffee gets less bitter, sweeter and more acidic. Its really up to you to work out where your preferences sit along the continuum. I have enjoyed mid to light roasted wet processed coffees with a fair whack of acidity in the stovetop, but I dont use it very often. The last thing that wowed me was a PNG Kimel, from memory.

    Hope that helps,

    Luca


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    Re: Stovetop coffee taste bitter without sugar

    Hi - I know this is a very late reply but the answer was a few posts back - definitely it is a heat problem - use cold water and slowly increase the heat while leaving the top lid open so you can see the shot start. Once it starts rolling out, pull it off the heat and let it continue to run under its own power until it starts to slow and possibly blonde. I usually take sugar in my coffee but find that when i resort to my stovetop, I dont need it. I think there is also a pressure thing going on here but thats for another thread.

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    Re: Stovetop coffee taste bitter without sugar

    hmmm, I do the opposite- start with boiled water- very low heat.

    my reasoning is: if you start with hot water- and use a low flame- the brew starts quickly- before much heat is absorbed into the moka pot itself- and especially the top half.

    But the Brikka has an inbuilt crema valve- so it may work quite differently than the standard moka pot- I havent had a chance to try one out yet.

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    Re: Stovetop coffee taste bitter without sugar

    I havent tried the Brikka, but Im never against running traditional stovetops under cold water to cool them straight off after theyve brewed. I also brew quite fast, but try to avoid burning, which can be as much down to having a stovetop grind as anything else.

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    Re: Stovetop coffee taste bitter without sugar

    Quote Originally Posted by 29302624450 link=1217120598/6#6 date=1217422902
    Hi afton,

    I wrote up a stovetop guide whilst I was working at Veneziano. *You can pick up a hard copy for free at First Pour, or you can help yourself to the pdf from here.

    Hope that helps,

    Luca
    I found your guide a couple of weeks ago and use it when I dont have time to heat up my Expobar. It is really good and the coffee is alot smoother and less bitter.

    I start with boiled water and low heat then watch the pour come out with the lid open and turn off when I need to.

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    Re: Stovetop coffee taste bitter without sugar

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    This is a great guide!

    Although I wasnt getting a bad coffee from my stove top brewer Ive got it is amazing how much smoother and how many more flavours the technique in this guide gives. Im sure with a bit more experiment in the grind I will be able to perfect this coffee which I had always been making incorrectly due to being misinformed...

    Thanks!



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