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    first time buyer of coffee machine, grinder & bean

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    Once upon a time I used to get out for a good coffee but now that I have one-year-old twins the fairy tale has changed. So Id like to set myself up with a good grinder and coffee machine at home and would like to know where I can get good fresh coffee beans around Brisbane. My total budget is around $1k. Most of my coffees are in the form of cappucinos - the creamier the better. I also have alot of drop in guests so a machine that can cater this will be preferable. Can anyone help me with a few suggestions?

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    Re: first time buyer of coffee machine, grinder &

    Hi immy,

    Welcome to CS!

    You will get lots of advice on this Im sure with repetitive advice stating that you should spend at least equivalent money on a grinder (which you should).

    For about 1K you have a number of options, but if you want to make multiple steam drinks for that price youre limited to the sunbeam EM6910 which you can get for about $500. It runs on a thermablock so it can steam and pour coffee at the same time and you dont have to worry about waiting in between. (The next jump up is to around the $2K mark for a double boiler or HX machine which will be far superior in build quality and capabilities.)

    This leaves you with $500+ dollars for a grinder. Check out the CompakK3T (500), Mazzer Mini or MacapM4 ($700-800).

    There are a number of sponsors in the Brisbane area or you can always buy Roasted beans from the beanbay here on CS and Andy will ship them to you. Or you can start roasting at home and save even more money...

    hope that helps...but feel free to call a sponsor. they will answer all your questions.

    cheers,

    sd

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    Re: first time buyer of coffee machine, grinder &

    Immy;

    If you looking for a machine and a grinder under 1K look at our Xmas specials, you may find something in there. At the moment we have Gaggia Classic (modified) & Iberital Challenge Combo

    http://www.dibartoli.com.au/product_details.asp?pid=34

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    Thankyou SD and Renzo.

    If I forgo the dual steam and pour, can you suggest any other machines? I may need to break the budget too to get better quality. Ive read that the Sunbeam EM6910 may get itself into a few problems however it still seems like a good machine for the novice like me. Would the Rancilio Silvia be better to get for $300 more? It seems to be suggested a fair bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by immy link=1229438451/0#3 date=1229492980
    Would the Rancilio Silvia be better to get for $300 more? It seems to be suggested a fair bit.
    Yes, definately! Well worth the extra money IMO. It will no doubt last much longer than the Sunbeam, so should actually cost you less in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill link=1229438451/0#4 date=1229493490
    Quote Originally Posted by immy link=1229438451/0#3 date=1229492980
    Would the Rancilio Silvia be better to get for $300 more? It seems to be suggested a fair bit.
    Yes, definately! Well worth the extra money IMO. It will no doubt last much longer than the Sunbeam, so should actually cost you less in the long run.
    It is a much better machine, but it depends on your needs. If youre only making 2 double shot flat whites at a time then its fine, anymore and itll take some time. It is a single boiler and cannot steam and pour shots simultaneously. A better machine if it suits your needs.

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    Re: first time buyer of coffee machine, grinder &

    Quote Originally Posted by smokeydeck link=1229438451/0#1 date=1229471035
    Hi immy,

    (The next jump up is to around the $2K mark for a double boiler or HX machine which will be far superior in build quality and capabilities.)

    This leaves you with $500+ dollars for a grinder. Check out the CompakK3T (500), Mazzer Mini or MacapM4 ($700-800).

    Thanks again sd and also Bill.

    Its unfortunate that there isnt a great quality machine that can pour and steam at the same time unless you go up to $2K. Not sure how long Ill be in front of the Silvia making 4 to 8 cups of coffee in the one go!

    If I do go with the Silvia would the Rocky be a better match or is the Compak K3T still better?

    Im

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    HI Im, I am a proud Silvia owner and love the machine, produces great espresso with the PID, but more than four milk based drinks is slow (4 shots from 2 double baskets) and then steam milk after pulling shots.After that you have to wait until machine cools down to brewing temp again before repeating the process. If your drinking espresso/americanos etc it will churn them out ok.
    Unless you want to go to an HX or twin boiler big bucks machine the Sunbeam 6910 would probably serve your purposes quite well, my son has one and he loves it because it is easy to pull a decent shot and then steam quickly.

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    Approx how long will it take the Silvia to cool down to brewing temp again? I think this could make it or break it for me. I dont think I could have half the guests waiting around for their coffees when the other half got theirs up to 30 minutes ago.

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    Re: first time buyer of coffee machine, grinder &

    Quote Originally Posted by immy link=1229438451/0#6 date=1229572741
    Not *sure how long Ill be in front of the Silvia making 4 to 8 cups of coffee in the one go!
    If youre making that many milk based drinks on a regular basis, than the Silvia probably isnt suitable. It sounds like you need an HX machine, which is gonna be $2k+, or perhaps you should keep an eye on the For Sale section for a good 2nd-hand one.

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    Re: first time buyer of coffee machine, grinder &

    We had the Silvia prior to the Expobar. Whilst I could do 4 or 6 milk based drinks in reasonably good time on the Silvia, it really is a breeze once you have the dual boiler or HX machine to work with.

    If it is at all possible, try to stretch to a dual boiler or HX machine. You wont regret it.

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    Re: first time buyer of coffee machine, grinder &

    Hi immy,

    Agree to everything thats been said - Silvia is great but not the machine for doing regular coffee "parties".

    A great HX entry level option is the Expobar Semi Auto - for sub $1700 it will easily cater for your drop ins.

    http://www.jetblackespresso.com.au/s...ice-semi-auto/

    It has smaller feet now - so looks better than the picture on that link.

    Paired with a good quality burr grinder, you could get away for not much more than $2K for the combo.

    charlie

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    Re: first time buyer of coffee machine, grinder &

    Thanks to all.

    Has anyone owned an Expobar Semi Auto?

    Ill PM Charlie as well.

    Im

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    Re: first time buyer of coffee machine, grinder &

    Hi immy

    Whilst I havent used, or stock the Expobar Semi Auto my impressions are that it is an entry level HX machine. For around the same price the Diadema Perfetta is a top level dual-purpose boiler machine, and is very well finished and fully stainless.

    It would pay you to compare the machines before deciding on one or the other. We carry the Diadema and also have access to the Expobar range.

    If I can be of assistance please dont hesitate to contact me.

    Cheers
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    Re: first time buyer of coffee machine, grinder &

    Thanks Den,

    I will contact you as I dont even know why a dual-purpose boiler is better than a HX. When I do have a moment, I am trying to read any relevant posts. So much to know...you guys must have a degree in this... and I havent even started on making the coffee!! And to think that I thought I knew what a good cup of coffee was!


    Im

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    Re: first time buyer of coffee machine, grinder &

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    Im, I didnt mean to suggest one is necessarily better than the other.

    While youre reading, remember it doesnt *need* to be as complicated as some people make out it out to be. For example, some here will treat the digital scales they use as a shrine, to precisely measure the next coffee dose, and then write a treatise on the merits of doing so.

    That may be all well and good, but on the other hand, soon you may have the twins conspiring mischief and havoc (which is all fun once youve had time to reflect), and simply want to be able to make a pretty good coffee for yourself and friends without too much hassle.

    Thats why Im sure things will become clearer for you when you get the opportunity to try these machines.

    Cheers
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