... and of course any comments you might like to add would be most welcome! :)
Id like to get a bit of feedback please. We just received a batch of Barista handles which I asked to be anodised in a matte finish as I felt the glossy finish on the previous units was a bit glossier than I really wanted. Matte tends to make colours look a bit more saturated than gloss as you see more of the pure colour and less of the reflections in the room; but you also run the risk of it looking dull and dirty, particularly in the darker colours.
CSers are known to be a very particular bunch so as Robin and I are of mixed opinions as to which we prefer it seemed sensible to ask such a wide and pedantic bunch! :) While its always going to be a subjective question Id appreciate your input as to which you prefer from these photos.
... and of course any comments you might like to add would be most welcome! :)
I like the matte finish except for the black which looks like it could be made of rubber.
Could you have both available and see what users would like
Out of that bunch, I would choose:
blue - matte
red - matte
black - glossy
pink - matte
Pretty much exactly what flynn said
Agree! But only just. Both look great!Originally Posted by 4B434C4A42181D290 link=1260505968/3#3 date=1260507503
If possible maybe offer both?
Originally Posted by 6C6F7D7D796F770E0 link=1260505968/4#4 date=1260508326;) ;DOriginally Posted by 6C646B6D653F3A0E0 link=1260505968/3#3 date=1260507503
Im currently using a Coffee lab design tamper, I will eventually order a Synesso basket & Pullman. Prefer gloss as I feel it is more resistant to wear and will look better for longer.
PS. A choice of both would be ideal. ;)
Both would be an option, but providing options are a two-edged sword. Generally speaking I like to give people as much choice as possible, so we have 14 handles in the Barista range already, 10 with a choice of insert colours. The flipside is that if you provide too many options it makes choosing complicated. How much harder is it to choose a mobile phone plan these days than 10 years ago?? ::) We already get questions about ridged vs ridgeless Synesso baskets. Also photos dont always do products justice and thered be bound to be comments like I ordered matte but this looks a bit glossier than I was expecting etc etc etc. Again, we get the odd complaint that the colours look different to whats on someones computer monitor (and of course monitor settings could be anything...) and the more subtle the difference between handles the greater the likelihood someones going to get disappointed - and blame us!
The matte handles can show fingerprints a bit more which doesnt really come up in photos, more so on the darker colours.
I guess one option to nail this would be to perhaps send a few over to a BeanBay pickup and let you inspect them in the metal and see what you reckon. Not dissimilar to the prototype tours when I was developing the Barista in the first place...
I prefer the colour intensity of the matte and the shine of the glossy. (Ducks and runs for cover. ;D)
(but I really prefer the grape)
Greg - matte for colours, glossy for black
Yep, same here.Originally Posted by 2B3E37272B3030440 link=1260505968/9#9 date=1260524966
OK do I have to different
I personally like satin (not to glossy not to matt)
Greg if you can come up with a pearl lustre and pearl colour I would buy one to alternate with the silver I now have
My concern is, does the gloss wear away over time? or perhaps maybe itll give it that rough edgy look.
Either way, I seem to be leaning towards the matte side. To myself, aesthetically, it has that Im more expensive and of higher quality look.
Thanks for the feedback guys, seems to be a reasonable consensus there. Ideally Id like to use the same finish for all handles but that may not be the best overall solution.
@mono - The anodising is the same strength regardless of whether its a matte or gloss finish. Reflective surfaces are more inclined to show scratches and dents that matte ones, but matte surfaces can tend to show glossy substances like grease more than a glossy surface.
@robstar - no the anodising is quite hard, and gloss or matte would both wear away at the same rate (which is very slow!). Some of the gloss Burgundy handles look really nice in the metal, almost like the wet look of a highly polished car, but at the same time I think matte does exude a more subdued classiness than a more out-there glossy appearance.
@kk - thats actually my preference too. The image below is from the first run of Barista handles we had done which is basically what Im wanting to get, though of course I wouldnt be selling them in their current form if I wasnt sufficiently happy with them. For reasons beyond my control the manufacturing process has had to change which is giving the aluminium a shinier surface pre-anodising.
An alternate option would be to send a couple to my house *;)Originally Posted by 5F4A5D5F484D5454555956380 link=1260505968/7#7 date=1260520926
Failing that, I vote for the matte finish *8-)
Must admit overall I much prefer the look and feel of the hard wood handles.
I understand the logic of metal and cleanliness in a commercial situation, but after 8 years of home use my hardwood handle still looks and feels as good as new, in fact better than new its taken on a very nice patina through constant use, may well be an heirloom. ;)
I agree completely! My Pullman tamper with its hardwood handle just gets classier and more beautiful with age. Kinda like my wife, who turns 19 in February.... 19 Stone that is..... Heheheheehee hope she doesnt read this.... ;DOriginally Posted by 576B627A6F0E0 link=1260505968/15#15 date=1260573350
For your sake I hope so too, your a brave man Brett. ::)Originally Posted by 3B2B3C2D2D6B6A69616E6A590 link=1260505968/16#16 date=1260578849
I really like the matte red. I have been dropping hints around the house about Christmas. Would it be possible to order the matte finish and be prepared to wait for delivery?
Of course what I really want is a checkerboard handle with a bismuth insert to produce a balanced tamper. ;)
Agree with your logic there Jon W, same reason why the Deluxes only ever had wooden handles. Building a commercial tamper I had to provide a more robust alternative that could take the sort of punishment I had in mind, though of course having all those colours available gives them a fair bit of appeal to some home users too.Originally Posted by 79454C5441200 link=1260505968/15#15 date=1260573350
@caffeol - yeah just mention in checkout youd like a matte Burgundy handle and well use that for your order as we have both at the moment. Dont sit on your hands though - at this time of year and with longer than normal freight times things are taking longer to get to people.
Well I must admit I did consider a travelling roadshow sort of idea but the freight side of it could be tricky - including a pile of pre-paid mailing bags could work but thered likely be others whod want to be in once the tour started.Originally Posted by 48415050494841505049200 link=1260505968/14#14 date=1260569901
Wouldnt it be a boring word if we all had the same tastes?Originally Posted by 3421363423263F3F3E323D530 link=1260505968/19#19 date=1260595115
I like both and, being a typical woman, cant decide! :D I do prefer the black in the shiny, definitely, though. All the rest are neck and neck for me, although the practicality of the matt finish for me would end up winning it
Is there any difference when it comes down to grippability / slippability, Greg? Probably seems like a silly question, but with my hand being smaller, I tend to grip my Pullman around the edges of the top bulp, rather than have the very top in the palm of my hand (it ends up being more over towards the the pad of my hand closest to my little finger). Actually, the more I think of it, it probably is a silly question, because I balance my fingers around the base, but Ill leave the question there just in case.
Greg, I think you could make a beautiful Christmas card or Logo out of the red, green and black ones (sorry, just my creative side coming out...)
That one caught my eye yesterday; standing out from the rest to me.Originally Posted by 42657361790A0 link=1260505968/21#21 date=1260653465
seems no one else does, but I really like the look of the matte Black one. I was tossing up between the Acetal and the stealth black when I got mine, because I liked the matte look of the Acetal.
If matte Black Anodized Aluminium was available when I ordered I would have chosen it.
looking at the picture again I think the matte black looks very classy next to the gloss black poser.
the pullman logo stands out better and I think it would look great on the complete tamper as the matte finish would look similar to the finish on the rubber top of the base.
anything that does not show up fingermarks is better in my books... i would go for matte in all colours.
love the colours, by the way, Greg.
Cant believe I only just spotted this thread!
Dont know if Im too late but Im with the group consensus which is matte for colours, (not too fussed about either black, really, but if I had to choose, Id go gloss).
I much prefer the brighter finish as the colours are, like you said Greg, more saturated and Im a fan of the deeper colour. The gloss looks a bit christmas decoration-ey, maybe a tad too shiny?
Like Greg W, Id like to see them in grape too! :) (Good choice Greg W!)
Would I be correct in saying that the current Baristas on sale are the matt finish? With all due respect, and being completely honest, I think the pictures of the Barista handle on the website appear quite glossy (esp the ones on the white background) though I know this varies from computer to computer. I personally wouldnt select the grape handle from the website, but I like the look of it from CSers pictures on this site - it just looks more matt in the pictures here.
I can see Greg Ps point about offering too many options. Perhaps a way around this is to keep x of the less preferred (at this stage glossy handles) around and then the select crowd who know about them can request them if they wish (like a special edition).
Hope that helps, they are all lovely pieces of art.
We do say that the photos on the website are only a guide, mainly because as you say individuals monitor settings can be all over the place and obviously out of our control. Each batch of handles can appear slightly different and we dont update the website photos in those cases, but when theyre more noticeably different we do reshoot.
Im hoping to get the photos on the website updated in the next few days with the matte ones; if it was a 5 minute job Id have done it earlier but by the time all the equipment and lighting is set up, kids out the way, photos are shot, processed, resized and uploaded you can kiss goodbye to several hours easily. So while its important the unfortunate reality is that its not the sort of thing that can be done in five minute snatches of idle time, so sometimes has to wait a bit longer than Id like.
Heres the current grape...