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    Quick question about filter baskets.

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    Hi guys! Its been awhile and Ive just recently started roasting and making coffee again :)

    I need some advice on which filter basket to order for my EM6910 portafilter.

    http://www.SOME_AUSTRALIAN_DEALER.com.au/ lists a whole range of filter baskets, all 58mm, with no details on if they are ridgeless or ridged.

    Does anyone know what these product numbers correspond to?

    58mm 7g Filter baskets:
    521830 *700201 *700255 *300048 *

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    Re: Quick question about filter baskets.

    Use the standard SB unpressurised baskets or contact any of teh sponsors.

    7g is a single... Err put back in the box.

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    Re: Quick question about filter baskets.

    Quote Originally Posted by 6C737B6865606464090 link=1269334226/0#0 date=1269334226
    Hi guys! Its been awhile and Ive just recently started roasting and making coffee again Smiley

    I need some advice on which filter basket to order for my EM6910 portafilter.
    Give Pullman a call Greg has basket to suite your 6910..Site sponsor..

    Gra.

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    Re: Quick question about filter baskets.

    Ooh perhaps I should provide a bit of background information.


    Ive been using my sunbeam quite a bit lately since semester started.

    Roasted a few batches of coffee... and all is good and well.

    Except theres one nagging thing that just annoys me.


    The Sunbeam basket is too big. The double basket makes too much coffee and is reliable.

    The single basket is more appropriate, but is very difficult to standardize the dosing for the simple reason that the typical level-with-a-knife-and-tamp method does not work. I find I need to grind, level, tamp... then repeat with a bit more coffee.

    Maybe its my skill level... or poor design i dont know. But if I dont do that I consistently get a muddy puck with signs of channeling.

    I dont like the single sunbeam basket., but its the one I use all the time.

    Ive seen pictures of the typical rancilio/LM baskets and they look alot flatter, which means that a simple level and tamp method should produce sufficient height and not require a second dose and tamp.

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    Re: Quick question about filter baskets.

    Quote Originally Posted by 241102630 link=1269334226/2#2 date=1269340403
    Quote Originally Posted by 6C737B6865606464090 link=1269334226/0#0 date=1269334226
    Hi guys! Its been awhile and Ive just recently started roasting and making coffee again Smiley

    I need some advice on which filter basket to order for my EM6910 portafilter.
    Give Pullman a call Greg has basket to suite your 6910..Site sponsor..

    Gra.
    Agree with teh above post... Greg will have any number of 58mm baskets and is sure to have a mid size that will fit.

    PS. If you or Others have got any of the pressurised baskets still hanging around... I am happy to have them posted my way 8-)

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    Re: Quick question about filter baskets.

    Greg only stocks the ridged single basket that will get stuck in the 6910s portafilter.

    Im looking for a ridgeless one.


    Hmm, i should have the pressurised basket lying around somewhere. Dont know where it is though. Its never been touched :p

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    Re: Quick question about filter baskets.

    Ive ordered an appropriate one from coffeeparts.

    Thanks for the feedback anyways.

    :)

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    Re: Quick question about filter baskets.

    Hey mate
    I`m after a 2 cup basket for my 6910 also. Can you tell me which one you ordered form Coffee Parts?
    Regards Robert

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    Re: Quick question about filter baskets.

    Coffee parts does not have suitable baskets for the sunbeam portafilter.

    I would reccommend ordering from Pullmantampers as the synesso baskets fit perfectly. I am using a synesso double with a pullman tamper. It fits the portafilter perfectly like the original sunbeam double. Its more of a triple basket though... and holds about 20g of coffee.

    My 7g basket just arrived, and it is usable but does not fit as well as the default basket. It is also almost the same height, though very slightly smaller than the sunbeam single.

    Somethings not right with my method of preparing espresso. I find I consistently need to grind-level-tamp...then repeat again... to get a good extraction. A single grind-level-tamp gives me a muddy puck and sourish extraction.

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    Re: Quick question about filter baskets.

    Quote Originally Posted by 372820333E3B3F3F520 link=1269334226/3#3 date=1269344921
    The single basket is more appropriate, but is very difficult to standardize the dosing for the simple reason that the typical level-with-a-knife-and-tamp method does not work. I find I need to grind, level, tamp... then repeat with a bit more coffee.
    With EM6910 after tamping the level of coffee MUST be 3mm below the filter basket rim - Page 14 of the manual. *They stress this at the training course as well.

    May be the cause of your problem *::)

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    Re: Quick question about filter baskets.

    Quote Originally Posted by 312E2635383D3939540 link=1269334226/3#3 date=1269344921
    The single basket is more appropriate, but is very difficult to standardize the dosing for the simple reason that the typical level-with-a-knife-and-tamp method does not work. I find I need to grind, level, tamp... then repeat with a bit more coffee.
    If you collapse the ground coffee with 1,2 or 3 etc taps on the bench before you level, you will get more coffee in the basket.

    Getting the dose right is an art and takes plenty of practice.

    I find the correct dose is when after tamping the silver part of the supplied tamper sits about 1-2mm (rough guess) above the basket

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    Re: Quick question about filter baskets.

    Quote Originally Posted by 6C777E686B661F0 link=1269334226/10#10 date=1269564301
    Quote Originally Posted by 312E2635383D3939540 link=1269334226/3#3 date=1269344921
    The single basket is more appropriate, but is very difficult to standardize the dosing for the simple reason that the typical level-with-a-knife-and-tamp method does not work. I find I need to grind, level, tamp... then repeat with a bit more coffee.
    If you collapse the ground coffee with 1,2 or 3 etc taps on the bench before you level, you will get more coffee in the basket.

    Getting the dose right is an art and takes plenty of practice.

    I find the correct dose is when after tamping the silver part of the supplied tamper sits about 1-2mm (rough guess) above the basket
    Oh yeah! Thanks for the suggestion!!!

    =)

    I now get clean pucks with an image of the showerscreen imprinted on the top.

    Had to take the idea one step further though. Just knockingn the thing wasnt enough. Had to tap down on the mound of coffee with the back of a knife (vertically, not flat) about a dozen times in quick suscession, but i think i got it right.


    Quote Originally Posted by 4D6A6C6B661F0 link=1269334226/9#9 date=1269551574
    Quote Originally Posted by 372820333E3B3F3F520 link=1269334226/3#3 date=1269344921
    The single basket is more appropriate, but is very difficult to standardize the dosing for the simple reason that the typical level-with-a-knife-and-tamp method does not work. I find I need to grind, level, tamp... then repeat with a bit more coffee.
    With EM6910 after tamping the level of coffee MUST be 3mm below the filter basket rim - Page 14 of the manual. *They stress this at the training course as well.

    May be the cause of your problem *::) *
    Hmm, maybe they were using a different group head (6900?) because 3mm will definitely choke my 6910 - as in I wouldnt be able to fit the portafilter into the group head and water will leak out the sides. I know this for sure as 3mm would be halfway between the lowest dosing guide of my tamper (the third line on a pullman). The lowest dosing line seems ideal. Its about 5-6mm from the base. . I get the best shots when the coffee grounds (post tamp) are up to the that line.

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    Re: Quick question about filter baskets.


    Quote Originally Posted by 28373F2C212420204D0 link=1269334226/11#11 date=1269897519
    I had a laugh, i dont know what baskets they were using, but 3mm will definitely choke the machine - as in I wouldnt be able to fit the portafilter into the group head. I know this for sure as 3mm would be halfway between the lowest dosing guide of my tamper (the third line on a pullman). The lowest dosing line seems ideal. Its about 5-6mm from the base. . I get the best shots when the coffee grounds (post tamp) are up to the that line.
    The only way you will choke the EM6910 dosing up to 3mm below the top of the basket is if you are grinding too fine. :-?

    The 3mm mark delivers the best shot - ask any EM6910 user ;)






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    Re: Quick question about filter baskets.

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    A procedure that works with the SB and is recommended at their training course is:

    1. Grind enough coffee untill the mound just reaches over the top of the basket.

    2. Tap the portafilter on the bench press LIGHTLY with the tamper to make more room.

    3. Repeat 1 & 2 twice - that is three sequences of above.

    4. Tamp evenly and firmly.

    The top of the tamped coffee should be 3mm below the top of the basket.

    Cant go wrong ;)



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