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    Portaflon Group Handles - are they worth it?

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    I have the option of buying portaflon group handles with my new machine, though at $320.00 a pop, it would be nice to get some feedback from anyone who has used them.

    They look like they do a great job. *Are they worth it?

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    Re: Portaflon Group Handles - are they worth it?

    ha, yeah on those.... never used them, like to try them if they were cheaper... I think Id rather put my bikkies to the stainless steel PFs they have over the teflon coated. If youve got a good cleaning regime throughout the day though its def a luxury I can do without at the price theyre at.

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    Re: Portaflon Group Handles - are they worth it?

    Overpriced gimmick IMHO- unless you wanna fry eggs in them :-? ;D

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    Re: Portaflon Group Handles - are they worth it?

    1: What is the intent ?

    A: Reduced Cleaning and thus more up time

    OR

    B: Enhanced cup result ?

    OR

    C: Bling


    IF A, then I would be looking at teh actual costing and what your cleaning processes are :-?

    IF B, Will / Can you or your clients tell teh difference :o

    IF C: Who will see them, if you pulling wet product ;)

    Last but not least...

    A few places will apply this sort of coating to your fry-pans or repair them and also for commercial applications.... Thus would be sure they could apply to ya spare group and you could try and let us know what you think... Be a bit/lot less than $300 8-)

    Your call Den.

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    Re: Portaflon Group Handles - are they worth it?

    Yikes.... Coffee hit from the uk (past sponsor) have there green teflon portafilters (including teflon coated spouts) for around 78 pounds (around $136 aud).

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    Re: Portaflon Group Handles - are they worth it?

    Thanks for the feedback. My interest in these was not about the bling. They just seem ultra easy to keep clean, though I think Ill deal with the stock ones for the time being.

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    Re: Portaflon Group Handles - are they worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by 4B57574853320 link=1281619841/1#1 date=1281620354
    I think Id rather put my bikkies to the stainless steel PFs
    Im with YeeZa on this one - if you are going to spend the $$$, go stainless steel

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    Re: Portaflon Group Handles - are they worth it?

    Wouldnt they just make cleaning a bit easier? Wouldnt think it would improve the coffee unless you were letting oils go off inside the pf, which I doubt you are. Id be interested in knowing how clean machine et al. compounds affect the teflon coating, and how "good" the coating is. Quality makes a huge difference in other "non-stick" applications, Ive been through a lot of cheap/mid range non-stick cooking gear, my current lot of scanpan gear does not look like giving up anytime soon though...

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    Re: Portaflon Group Handles - are they worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by 372C2C373E560 link=1281619841/7#7 date=1281687405
    Wouldnt they just make cleaning a bit easier?
    Im sure they would.

    Quote Originally Posted by 372C2C373E560 link=1281619841/7#7 date=1281687405
    Wouldnt think it would improve the coffee unless you were letting oils go off inside the pf, which I doubt you are.
    Yes, but even after 10 shots or so you get a build up of residual oils. It would be nice to simply flush some water through and know that it was clean.

    Quote Originally Posted by 372C2C373E560 link=1281619841/7#7 date=1281687405
    how "good" the coating is
    Me too - Im wondering how long it would last. Perhaps a long time if no abrasives are used?

    Quote Originally Posted by 372C2C373E560 link=1281619841/7#7 date=1281687405
    my current lot of scanpan gear does not look like giving up anytime soon though...
    Youre lucky. My partner has managed to permanently apply her own coating to ours. :-[

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    Re: Portaflon Group Handles - are they worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by 554E4E555C340 link=1281619841/7#7 date=1281687405
    Wouldnt they just make cleaning a bit easier? *
    How much easier can it be, I hate cleaning but on a scale of 1 to 10 keeping a PF and basket clean hardly moves the needle.
    I take em apart and wash at the end of the day and soak for 10 mins in EVO once a week when I back flush.
    Teflon coted PF certainly sounds like an expensive gimmick to me. ::)

    PS As an after thought, maybe in a commercial situation it would be a time saver, but would employees treat em with the necessary care and respect? :-/

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    Re: Portaflon Group Handles - are they worth it?

    Go naked! Cheaper, easier, and NO leftovers in the group handle.

    Greg

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    Re: Portaflon Group Handles - are they worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by 3A060F1702630 link=1281619841/9#9 date=1281689442
    maybe in a commercial situation it would be a time saver
    Yes, perhaps I should have clarified that I was thinking of a commercial environment.

    Im making about 700 coffees over a 6 day week - and that amount is puny compared to most cafes.

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    Re: Portaflon Group Handles - are they worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1B3A3131362C5F0 link=1281619841/11#11 date=1281693827
    Im making about 700 coffees over a 6 day week
    Im making about 30 over a 7 day week, somehow it seems pretty insignificant compared with 700. :-[

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    Re: Portaflon Group Handles - are they worth it?

    When you are pumping the coffees out in a commercial situation alot of residue builds up on the portafilter. These were only ever intended to be used commercially (a waste of money at home).

    With just straight brass portafilters (the chrome doesnt last that long) if you have been busy all day and havent been able to clean an handle it really is gross the amount of funk there is on the base of the portafilter and spouts by the end of a shift.

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    Re: Portaflon Group Handles - are they worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1F2A3D3F0F372A3539343C580 link=1281619841/10#10 date=1281691397
    Go naked! Cheaper, easier, and NO leftovers in the group handle.

    Greg
    I concur!!!
    This was my first thought as soon as i saw the vid above. :) :)

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    Re: Portaflon Group Handles - are they worth it?

    They are coming. *

    Its just that theyre taking the scenic route:

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    Re: Portaflon Group Handles - are they worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0C2D2626213B480 link=1281619841/15#15 date=1285833588
    They are coming. *

    Its just that theyre taking the scenic route:

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    Good value on your transit dollar!!! 8-)

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    Re: Portaflon Group Handles - are they worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by 71505B5B5C46350 link=1281619841/15#15 date=1285833588
    They are coming. *

    Its just that theyre taking the scenic route:

    Sep 30, 2010 10:57 AMIn transitSAMUTPRAKARN TH
    Sep 30, 2010 10:56 AMIn transitSAMUTPRAKARN TH
    Sep 30, 2010 6:27 AMIn transitSAMUTPRAKARN TH
    Sep 30, 2010 3:38 AMDeparted FedEx locationGUANGZHOU CN
    Sep 30, 2010 3:30 AMIn transitGUANGZHOU CN
    Sep 29, 2010 10:52 PMArrived at FedEx locationGUANGZHOU CN
    Sep 29, 2010 4:09 AMIn transitPARIS FR
    Sep 29, 2010 2:39 AMDeparted FedEx locationPARIS FR
    Sep 29, 2010 12:04 AMArrived at FedEx locationPARIS FR
    Sep 28, 2010 9:48 PMIn transitSTANSTED GB
    Sep 28, 2010 7:25 PMLeft FedEx origin facilityBECKTON GB
    Sep 28, 2010 6:20 PMIn transitBECKTON GB
    Sep 28, 2010 2:05 PMPicked upBECKTON GB
    Sep 28, 2010 10:08 PMIn transitSTANSTED GB
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    Have they made it yet Dennis? ;)

    If so, how are they?

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    Re: Portaflon Group Handles - are they worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by 575C59594C575A595A5B465E5C350 link=1281619841/17#17 date=1286353549
    Have they made it yet Dennis? Wink

    If so, how are they?
    Yes, they made it, but they are woeful - see the pic. :(

    The teflon coating was ok, but in the process it seems that the chrome work bloomed and although I tried to clean one it had little effect.

    The place I purchased from have agreed to a refund and once I get over the disappointment might consider an alternative. :-/




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    Re: Portaflon Group Handles - are they worth it?

    makes me wonder why the sent it ? thats disappointment in a box :-[

    if you have time and still have them could you take a photo of the inside bit. i was interested in how it looked inside.

    do they coat the spout as well? i was thinking the spout is a bit of a gunk catcher as well

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    Re: Portaflon Group Handles - are they worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0D010805050C600 link=1281619841/19#19 date=1286360502
    makes me wonder why the sent it ?
    Me too!

    Quote Originally Posted by 0D010805050C600 link=1281619841/19#19 date=1286360502
    do they coat the spout as well?
    Yes, the spouts are coated. The interior of the group is not quite as smooth as Id expected.

    If youre thinking of using something like this, it would definitely be best to go for the ones that come direct from La Marzocco.

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    Re: Portaflon Group Handles - are they worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0E2F242423394A0 link=1281619841/20#20 date=1286361277
    If youre thinking of using something like this, it would definitely be best to go for the ones that come direct from La Marzocco. *

    I WISH i had a La Marz to buy Ghandles for *::)


    one day..... :)

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    Re: Portaflon Group Handles - are they worth it?

    Disappointing, Den. Wouldnt rub off, eh?

    Good of them to agree to a refund long distance (I suppose that means youre going to have to shell out the return delivery but).

    (Love the new LM!)

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    Re: Portaflon Group Handles - are they worth it?

    Oh what a let down, thats abit of a bummer mate.

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    Re: Portaflon Group Handles - are they worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by 427760624F52050 link=1281619841/22#22 date=1286364457
    Good of them to agree to a refund long distance (I suppose that means youre going to have to shell out the return delivery but).
    It actually took a bit of convincing Greg....and havent got it yet.


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    Re: Portaflon Group Handles - are they worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by 49686363647E0D0 link=1281619841/24#24 date=1286401293
    It actually took a bit of convincing Greg....and havent got it yet.
    Well watch this space then, Den.

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    Re: Portaflon Group Handles - are they worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0C392E2C011C4B0 link=1281619841/25#25 date=1286402380
    Quote Originally Posted by 49686363647E0D0 link=1281619841/24#24 date=1286401293
    It actually took a bit of convincing Greg....and havent got it yet.
    Well watch this space then, Den.
    Just a note to confirm that I have received a full refund, including postage.

    Am now hoping to get the LM proflon type.

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    Re: Portaflon Group Handles - are they worth it?

    Behmor Brazen - $249 - Free Freight
    Stainless LM handles are the shiznit. Forget about teflon coated handles.



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